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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Ancestor Klyen came to London from Sweden / Germany in the mid 19th century
« on: Monday 01 February 21 02:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks again for the reply Ambly. The Klyen family is rather confusing and slightly irritating to research. It's full of 'one offs' There is an Abraham and John Klyen in Halifax Yorkshire  (-mid 1800's John is getting married) and no further mention in any census of either of them. Half the kids of Louis Klyen and Eliza (Hearn / Wilson) seem to just disappear (They may have died young). Several years ago I received an extensive Klyen tree from a contact in the UK and there are a couple of similarities and some major differences..  It's like it's two families  / brothers who had similar sized families and shared some of the same names. The only thing I'm sure about the is the direct link with me. Louis and Eliza's first born was Henry (Harry) who married Jane Southwell. They had a Lewis Klyen who had my father who had me.  Apart from that, it's all fragmentary evidence and supposition. Thanks you for chatting about it though. Talking it over helps

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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Ancestor Klyen came to London from Sweden / Germany in the mid 19th century
« on: Sunday 31 January 21 07:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the reply Ambly.
The three first entries you mentioned (Bakers) are not related to us I believe.
The 1861 census is our family but there seems to be some crossover with a similar family which I'm trying to resolve. I believe 'my' Eliza is originally a Hearn (Need to find the reference again) but there is a Klyaen who married and Eliza Wilson. The 'Klyaens' kept their name spelling into the 1860s and there was also a Hermon born to them in 1863 who doesn't appear in the 'Klyen' family line. I'm familiar with the workhouse admissions / departures.
Interestingly (for me) the spelling of Louis is French and - as you noted - their first child was born in France...  There's too many similarities for the Klyens and the Klyaens to be unique but I can't find where the difference. I branch of the Klyens I contacted said the Klyaens changed their name before or during WWI to avoid problems (Understandably). But I can't find any evidence of this.

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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Ancestor Klyen came to London from Sweden / Germany in the mid 19th century
« on: Saturday 30 January 21 05:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hello all, My great great grandfather - Louis Klyen - was born in Germany around 1830 and at some point moved to London before 1861. On the UK 1861 census he is married to Eliza Hearn and living in Fleet Lane, London with one child (4 years old). He was a tailor. I don't think he was Jewish. Apart from this information I know almost nothing prior to the census info. Klyen is a rare name but seems common-ish around the German / Swedish border? De Klyen is a common Dutch name. There are also records of Russian and Ukrainian Klyens the earliest being in the 15 and16 hundreds. I'm a member of Ancestry.com but have pretty much emptied their info banks so I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of where I could go from here? I need to somehow connect Louis with Germany and find my earlier ancestors.
Thanks in advance! 

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