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Monmouthshire Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 KAYES/KEYSE- Trevethin
« on: Friday 04 November 22 17:42 GMT (UK)  »
My GG-Gran was Sophia Thomas living on Canal Bank in 1841, there's a 14yr old Sarah 'Jeyes' living with the family; possible mis-spelling of Keyes? Father William had died by the 1851 census, leaving wife Rachael & 9 children, at 34 Canal Bank, now on Parish relief. William had been an Iron Puddler, sadly a job with quite short life-expectancy. Sophia Thomas moved to Ashford, Derbyshire at some point & married a Milnes.

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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Putting a Gravestone Back Up
« on: Thursday 22 July 21 11:05 BST (UK)  »
Great additional info. HeatherR, thank you ;D

*Apparently this thread has been accessed '12424 times', it carries on being useful indefinitely ~ such is the beauty of the www! ;)

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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Putting a Gravestone Back Up
« on: Wednesday 07 April 21 00:03 BST (UK)  »
'So sad though... the gravestone is really lovely marble... just on its back and covered in mud... Every time I see a photo I want to rush across the country and give it a scrub' - So lovely to know I'm not the only one who thinks things like this! lol. Always hated seeing headstones toppled, our city Cathedral deliberately flattened 'their' 17th/18thC ones, inc my relative's, & used them as paving-! I really hate that >:( Others from a handsome Gothic Church demolished 1950s, got smashed up & sold to builders to use in walls-! Corporate vandals & thieves.
I've always wanted to right displaced 'stones, but the weight, and the cost. I found a Graveyard recently, neglected by Church & local Council for 60yrs; some wonderful Victorian gravestones & epitaphs; the skill of their stonemasons is incredible - but many fallen over, some vandalised, up-rooted by weed trees, stained by lichen - day-glo green in the sunlight! which is fine, but not the obliterating and damaging Ivy; I'll remember secateurs next time - I was actually day-dreaming about winning the lottery and returning it to as it used to look, & fitting CCTV, justifying that the money spent'd create jobs for living people ;)
Often wonder if our ancestors could have seen the future state of the Cemetery & their precious memorials, would they have still have spent money they could ill afford on those beautiful 'stones? - Or did it bring the comfort they needed at the time, so even if it fell to disrepair, it was worth it for them.. Hopefully they're somewhere far better than this mortal coil and beyond caring.
https://www.sheffield.anglican.org/UserFiles/File/caring_historic_graveyard_cemetery_mon.pdf

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: st philips church sheffield
« on: Thursday 18 March 21 01:03 GMT (UK)  »
Just found this page with more information on St Philips, though not necessarily helpful for finding relatives, unless their gravestones were the among those 'saved' in the wall?
'..headstones from St Philips were sold to stonemasons & some of them cut into blocks. They can be seen in the retaining wall of the River Porter in Bingham Park'  :o
- I'm all for re-cycling, but not by destroying valuable historic & family memorial inscriptions; so wrong & disrespectful, kind've wish I'd never read this..! :'(  http://ceegee-viewfromahill.blogspot.com/2020/02/esther-ball-1770-1828-first-burial-in.html

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: st philips church sheffield
« on: Thursday 18 March 21 00:25 GMT (UK)  »
Agree it's a real shame St Philips got demolished, looks very beautiful on all the pics, but it's sadly very typical of Sheffield! Council /developer$ have been on a mission to flatten anything older/ attractive since 1950s. The Graveyard was also sliced up, eventually gone completely early 1990s. There's a lot've info about it on the 'Sheffield History' forum.
Nearby St Annes was was demolished; the entire area was levelled supposedly to remove slum housing but with it also went solid terrace housing, Pubs, schools, youthclubs, historic Cutlers works: a whole community, threw out baby with the bath water. Maybe we don't need as many Churches now, but the 1s not in use could've been repurposed rather than lost like this; St Philips was built by public subscription, it belonged to the people! Many buildings would've been ideal for trendy 'heritage' flats for singles & students, & they wouldn't have needed to build the recent, not so pretty, Uni boxes.
I've got relatives baptised in St Annes, & 1 in St Phillips in 1942 although I've also read it had shut by then? - & also buried in St Philips. Sadly their mid 19thC gravestones were shifted, some to what was Hillsborough Barracks, now a supermarket, but the others who knows. (If only Victorians could've known what'd happen to their Hallowed ground; they could've spent the little money they had on necessities for the family instead) Later St P. burials are in Wardsend Cemetery which thankfully is now being looked after by a group of dedicated volunteers, after years of neglect. *There's some wonderful photos on this site of pre-50s Sheffield, kind've sad too; 'Look what you could've had! - https://www.picturesheffield.com/frontend.php?searchterms=st+philips&action=search&keywords=all%3BCONTAINS%3B%25st%25%3BAND%3Ball%3BCONTAINS%3B%25philips%25%3B

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