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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for more info re: Maud Evans nee SMITH, b. June 1891 in Tipton/Dudley
« on: Friday 18 November 22 19:56 GMT (UK)  »
Totally the wrong birth date, no idea what happened there, thanks for pointing it out 😊
Lizzie

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for more info re: Maud Evans nee SMITH, b. June 1891 in Tipton/Dudley
« on: Friday 18 November 22 16:15 GMT (UK)  »
The James Smith I mentioned is most likely brother of George, both sons of Daniel Smith and Martha Bagby
Married 27 Sep 1858 • All Saints, Sedgley, Staffordshire
Groom: age 25, bachelor of Princes End; Occupation: Roller; Father: George, Engineer; Bride: age 21, spinster of Princes End; Father: John, Miner;

George had a daughter Maud; born
2 Nov 1892 • Tipton, Staffordshire
Baptised 16 Aug 1892 at Bloomfield Wesleyan Methodist

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Looking for more info re: Maud Evans nee SMITH, b. June 1891 in Tipton/Dudley
« on: Friday 18 November 22 13:05 GMT (UK)  »
Not sure if this is any help but I have a James Smith born 1863 in my tree. In the census of 1901 he is recorded :-
1901 • Sedgley, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Head; Marital Status: Married; Occupation: Publican; Living at Prince of Wales Inn, 1 Bloomfield Road,

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War
« on: Wednesday 13 July 22 22:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
The younger daughter Lettice who married Benjamin Blakemore in 1815 is my 3x great-grandmother. She seems to have remained in Lapley until 1840s and then moved to Wolverhampton where in 1851 census she is a widow living with her daughter and son in law.

Two other daughters are Susanna Herbage and Elizabeth Garrett both of whom appear to have married in London
Marriage, 16 Jun 1801 • Westminster St George, Hanover Square, Middlesex to John Herbage
Marriage, 12 Sep 1807 • Saint Mary, St Marylebone Road, Westminster, Middlesex to Edward Garrett

Draper himself I believe married 3 Jan 1775 • Holy Cross, Bobbington, Staffordshire to Mary Marrion, he was 32 and she was 17. Her family history is very well documented, however I am unsure about his parents.

Lizzie

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War
« on: Monday 11 July 22 19:31 BST (UK)  »
Hello
I have not been doing much research recently but it's great to hear from you. The London connection is by no means certain except the only Draper Lovatt I can find was baptized there and according to the names of Draper's daughters in his will there is also an indication they were in London. I will have to revisit the records and see what else I can find

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War
« on: Saturday 20 November 21 09:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again
I have been looking into Draper Lovatt's children to see if they can give any more clues but not discovered much. Have decided to research another branch of my tree for now but will definitely revisit this line again.
In the meantime thanks for all your assistance and good luck with your research
Lizzie

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War
« on: Wednesday 20 October 21 21:14 BST (UK)  »
If your hypothesis is correct then it seems most likely the Thomas who left a bequest to the Perry's, who I think were living with him, possibly in a carer capacity may have had no family and, due to the connection with Jeremiah of the 1768 will, he is probably the son of Thomas Jeremiah's brother and wife Ann ie Thomas born 1724. This seems more probable than him being the father of Draper.

I think I need to further investigate the will of Joseph dated 1687 for any clues as he could potentially be the grandfather of my Thomas of 1711.

Can I ask, as you seem to have a lot of experience in genealogy,  if you think I am likely to find more wills etc other than those on Find My Past if I visit the records office?

Many thanks
Lizzie

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War
« on: Friday 15 October 21 22:23 BST (UK)  »
I got a chance to visit my local library today and access the Find My Past website. I looked at Jeremiah Lovatts will, you are correct, it's a large one!.
I also discovered one for Richard Lovatt dated 1631 which mentions Maria, Thomas, Ann and John although I couldn't make out the name of his wife Rose in it.
I then came across a will of Thomas Lovatt dated 1798 which I thought could have been the year my potential Thomas, born 1711 had died, ( based on the fact that the other likely record of his  death 1777 denotes senex but he would not be that old). However this will makes no mention of any family but to a John Perry(?) labourer of Wheaton Aston and his wife Elizabeth and a Margaret wife of John Downes.
Lastly I found the will of Joseph Lovatt dated 1687,this mentions Jeremiah and Elizabeth and widow Maria or Mary, this presumably being Joseph born 1653,son of Thomas and Margery

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Armed Forces / Re: Thomas Lovatt and the English Civil War
« on: Friday 08 October 21 18:20 BST (UK)  »
Looking further into the archive records about William Bishton I can see mention of Killsall White House Estate, located in the parish of Tong, Shropshire. Now interestingly Draper Lovatt married Mary Marrion and the Marrion family are established in Tong by 1660s which is possibly another clue linking Draper to the Lapley/ Wheaton Aston Lovatts. I need to do some more digging.
Lizzie

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