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Australia / Re: William Hutchins convict
« on: Tuesday 20 November 18 00:25 GMT (UK)  »
Regarding my Trove post,  New South Wales, Australia, Convict Records, 1810-1891 for William Hutchins on Ancestry.com. au in the category Alphabetical List of Convicts, Title List of Non-Artificer Prisoners, 1822 shows that on September 11, 1824, William Hutchins of the Adamant was assigned to Mrs. Eyres of Parramatta.  The Trove article says that William Hitchins, servant to Mr. Eyre, was charged for being abusive to his mistress, and was sentenced to spend 14 days on a treadmill. The newspaper was a little off on the spelling of the names so maybe that where the spelling change came in.

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Australia / Re: William Hutchins convict
« on: Monday 19 November 18 19:00 GMT (UK)  »
Something to keep in mind is that there was more than one William Hutchins transported to Australia. The Hutchins that I'm researching was transported for 7 years. Also, by 1826 the surname, possibly through a spelling error, had got changed to Hitchens.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/37072080?searchTerm=%22william%20hitchins%22%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&searchLimits=l-state=New+South+Wales|||sortby=dateAsc

The relevant paragraph is at the bottom of the second column, just above the heading "Liverpool Police".

As for his parents, I haven't found them yet.  Although William Hutchins' native place is given as Lymington doesn't necessarily mean that he was baptized there. 


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Australia / Re: William Hutchins convict
« on: Monday 19 November 18 03:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for confirming that he was from Hampshire.  The Colonial Secretary Index only has three items for William Hutchins and all three are on Ancestry.com.au.  However, I did find a record on Find My Past.co.uk - Record Transcription: England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
He was convicted of larceny.  The image of his Certificate of Freedom in 1828 clearly shows the native place as Lymington. However, it's been mistranscribed as Lemmington and Leamington.

The surname got changed slightly from Hutchins to Hitchins and I don't know if I'm going to find a death or burial for him.

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Australia / William Hutchins convict
« on: Sunday 18 November 18 20:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi:

I'm trying to sort out some information on a convict named William Hutchins.  He was convicted in 1821 at the Surrey Quarter Sessions and transported to Australia aboard the ship Adamant.  New South Wales, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930 on Ancestry.com.au says that his native place was Warwickshire. However, his Certificate of Freedom in 1828 lists his native place - which I think means birthplace - as Lymington, which is in Hampshire.  He was ill during the voyage of the Adamant and the ship's Surgeon, James Hamilton, gave William's age as 27 in his journal, giving a rough birth year of 1794.  However, his certificate of freedom lists his birth year as 1799. I would guess that both are probably estimates, but which location would be right for his birthplace? Thanks.

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Kent / Re: Questionable SHILLING marriage 1747
« on: Thursday 23 November 17 17:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thomas and Elizabeth had the following children:

John baptised Feb 19, 1748/49
Mary baptised Oct 14, 1750
Thomas baptised Mar 21, 1752/53
Richard baptised July 13, 1755
Robert baptised Nov 13, 1757
Elizabeth baptised Sept 6, 1761
Abraham baptised June 10, 1764

Abraham is a Shilling family first name which got passed down from four generations earlier.

John had four children: Elizabeth, Sarah, John, James and Elizabeth
Thomas had no children
Richard had 14 children: Thomas, Richard, John, Richard, William, Abraham, James, George, Charles, Mary, Charlotte, Sarah, Edward and Elizabeth.
Robert had 11 children:  Elizabeth, Daniel, Robert, Thomas, Isaac, Eliza, Amy, Winch, William, Richard and Sarah.
Abraham had one child so far that I've been able to confirm:  Ann Bailey Shilling, with Ann's mother's maiden name being Ann Bailey.

Elizabeth Lewis' parents were Thomas Lewis and Tabitha Bigg.  Her paternal grandparents were William Lewis and Rachel Unknown. Her maternal grandparents were George Bigg and Mary Unknown.

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Kent / Re: Questionable SHILLING marriage 1747
« on: Thursday 02 November 17 02:13 GMT (UK)  »
I've checked Cranbrook parish registers. The Archdeacon's Transcripts show a baptism on September 11, 1725, for Elizabeth, daughter of Nathaniel and Susanna Row.  The Archdeacon's Transcripts also show a burial for an Elizabeth Row on February 10, 1727/28. There are no further baptisms for an Elizabeth Row after 1725 or burials after 1727/28.

It's hard to tell who originally posted the Shilling/Rowe marriage. As with Ancestry, so many things get blindly copied based on Ancestry trees which are notoriously unreliable.

Warehorne Bishop's Transcripts show the following marriage:

Thomas Shilling & Elizabeth Lewis were married April 11, 1748, after Banns canonically published.

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Kent / Re: Questionable SHILLING marriage 1747
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 22:28 BST (UK)  »
It looks like the wrong information has been carried over to other sites. This is similar to Ancestry where errors get perpetuated.  This is the point of verifying information.

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Kent / Questionable SHILLING marriage 1747
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 03:35 BST (UK)  »
I'm helping a gentleman in California with the surname Shilling trace his paternal tree and I'm looking for advice on a Shilling marriage in 1747.  I've come across a Shilling family tree on a website called Our Family Tree:  https://www.ourfamtree.org/index.php?loggedout  In the tree, there is a marriage between Thomas Shilling and Elizabeth Rowe in 1747 in Bethersden.  However, when I checked the Bethersden Bishop's Transcripts for the period of 1746-49, I couldn't find the marriage.  These are the marriages that I found:

Bethersden Marriages – Bishop’s Transcripts   Lady Day to Lady Day (March 25)

1746-1747

Dec 29 1746    John Gold of Ashford and Mary Kemp of this parish by Banns
Jan 29 1747    John Bissenden and Eleanor Marsh both of the parish of Kingsnorth by license
Feb 18 1747    Francis Whitfield and Sarah Wilmott both of this parish by license

1747-1748

April 23 1747    Robert Gladdish of Biddenden and Ann Andrews of this parish
Oct 1 1747       Thomas Else and Sarah Harris both of this parish
Oct 2 1747       William Mepham of the parish of Little Chart and Ann Hopper of this parish
Oct 27 1747     William Brown of the parish of High Halden and Elizabeth Stephenson of this parish
Dec 26 1747     John Bates of the parish of Ulcombe and Mary George of this parish

1748-1749     

Sept 30 1748   Edward Brown and Elizabeth Jacob
Nov 10 1748   John Brunger and Martha Brown
Jan 1 1749   James Davis and Sarah Weston
Jan 22 1749   Thomas Russel and Sarah Horton

I've checked Ancestry, Family Search, Find My Past and Free Reg for a marriage between Thomas Shilling and Elizabeth Rowe from 1740 to 1750 and came up empty.  I did, however, find a marriage between Thomas Shilling and Elizabeth LEWIS in Warehorne on April 11, 1748. 

Should I just disregard the Shilling/Rowe marriage? This was the period before the Hardwicke Marriage Act of 1754. 

Thanks.

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Kent / Re: Kent Marriage Licences 1750 Onwards
« on: Tuesday 17 October 17 01:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi:

Another source is through the Family Search catalog.  Marriage and general license registers for the Diocese of Canterbury, 1568-1924 have been digitized. However, in order to view the records, you would need to have a Family Search account, which is free, and visit a Family History Centre.  Here's the link to the records.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/390754?availability=Family%20History%20Library

The books do have indexes with them.  I was recently able to view and download an image of an actual marriage license from 1803.

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