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Over the next few years the family moved to London and 4 more children arrived, Frank, John/George, Winnie and one other who I have yet to identify. I have found the baptism information for Frank, John and Winnie. I also have the birth certificate for John, which is interesting because he was baptised as George Hugh Shelley Bailey, but when they registered his birth the changed his first name to John.
Born Baptised Child’s name Parent’s names Residence & Father’s occupation
28th Feb 1902 16th Mar 1902 Frank William & Elizabeth Bailey 50 Red Lion Street.
Gas Fitter
8th Dec 1904 23rd Dec 1904 George Hugh Shelley William & Elizabeth Bailey 270 Northampton Buildings.
Gas Fitter
Both of the above took place at Clerkenwell St John. I am yet to find details of the birth/baptism of Winnie/Minnie.
The birth certificate for John/George reads as follows:
• Date and place of birth of birth: 8th December 1904 370 Northampton Buildings
• Name: John Hugh Shelley
• Sex: Boy
• Name and Surname of father: William Henry Bailey
• Name, surname and maiden surname of mother: Lizzie Bailey formerly Marson/Manson
• Occupation of father: gas fitter
• Signature, description and residence of informant: Lizzie Bailey, mother, 270 Northampton Buildings
• When registered: 18th January 1905
Moving on to the 1911 census. William is now a widower, the family has moved between 1901 and 1903 from Birmingham to London. The family are residing at 74 Gallaway Road, Shepherds Bush. Residing with the family is Ada Watkins, 24-year-old married house keeper and her 3 children, Lucy, Joseph and Delia
Name Age Occulation Place of birth
William Henry Bailey 37 Widower Gas Fitter Birmingham, Lozells (?)
Horace Bailey 10 Birmingham, Ladywood
Frank Bailey 8 Clerkenwell, London
John Bailey 6 London Westminster
Winnie Bailey 4 London Westminster
Between 1913 and 1919, William had 4 children with a lady named Ada Punter. On the birth certificates of 2 of their children, Sophia May Bailey (the oldest) and Charles Robert Bailey (the youngest), Ada lists herself as Ada Bailey, formerly Punter – suggesting they (her and William) were married.
They did get married – but not 1920, when Charles Robert was 11 months old! The marriage took place at the Register Office, Camberwell on April 10th 1920. William Henry Bailey, a 46 year old widower, gas meter tester married Ada Punter, a 32 year old spinster. Both were residing at 11 Middle Street, Peckham. William gives his father as John Charles Bailey (Engineer’s fitter), Ada gives her father as Joseph Punter (Waterman).
Horace married Doris Margaret Kate Hoare on on 26th Nov 1924, at St John Baptism, Southend on Sea, Essex.
Horace, a 26 year old bachelor, working as a Mariner (Navy), residing at HM Barracks, Chatham. Father is William Henry Bailey, a gas fitter. Doris Margaret Kate Hoare, a 25 year old spinster residing at 66 Halprin (?) Avenue, Southend on Sea. Her father is James Reuben Hoare, a master plumber.
If you’ve made it this far, take a deep breath. I know it’s a lot of information.
But despite the research, I am yet to establish:
• What happened to Annie Bailey, nee Martin?
• Did William Henry Bailey marry Elizabeth Manson/Marson (the mother on John Hugh Shelley Bailey’s birth certificate). If he did, when?
• Could Annie and Lizzie be two of the same person?
• Who is my Great grandfather’s mother – Annie or Lizzie?
Thanks again
Roz
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