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Mayo / Rosina, Castlebar
« on: Tuesday 12 September 17 19:21 BST (UK) »Rosina
Castlebar is a parish or two away from Crossmolina, as mentioned by another blogger.
Good luck to you,
Diski
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Rosina
Castlebar is a parish or two away from Crossmolina, as mentioned by another blogger.
Good luck to you,
Diski
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Hello,
I have search all my databases and haven't found any McKey, McKay.. ect. in my Catholic or Church of Ireland vital records. And, as I have stated many times, any time before the 1850s is very early for the registers.And you have the unfortunate timing of being near the famine which of course, decimate the Irish population.
I would suggest you keep a VERY open mind while doing Irish research as far as names and its spellings (dates as well!). Prior to 1900 many names were spelled how the person writing the info down heard it. McKey could be spelled a variety of ways-with or without the Mc or Mac in front, Kay, Key Cay Cey? Imagine yourself hearing the name with a brogue your unfamiliar with. Many people back then couldn't read or write so they couldn't spell it either. You can imagine how messed up records got! As far as dates go, the general population had no need to know birth dates until the Old Age pensions came about. Everything was a guess- dates in the census could vary wildly from decade to decade. Also, the year of birth may need to be 'adjusted' so that they could marry, or join the army.or any other reason. Dates and name spelling are not concrete!
I DID find info on Mackie Macky (can you see how McKey might SOUND like Macky?) but only in COI records:
1804 Confirm Michael Mackin
1817 Confirm Edward and Robert Mackin
May 7 1819 Burial of Edward Mackin, 27y of Knocklegela
1807 Feb 8 Marriage Peter Macky and Mary Peters
I also found this:
Jan 1847 Mary, born to Thomas Macky?? and Eliza Lally, of Crossmolina Town.
(I couldn't read the surname clearly unfortunately).
The records for Church of Ireland covered several parishes but I only copied what was readily available for Crossmolina as I don't have COI ancestors. This was obtained from LDS film # 897365 should you wish to pursue that avenue.
As I mentioned, if you know your family was Catholic, the early records were very poor. See my intro for further explanation of this.
I also looked into the Tithe Applotment and didn't find any McKey Mackie Macky...
All in all, an unsatisfying few hours! Maybe you could check in with North Mayo and ask them for info-they have all cemetery records as well as births. They can also give suggestions for further research.
http://www.northmayogenealogy.com/
I also wonder if the MaKey name originated from another name. I was doing research for a fellow that was looking for the name TWIGG. I found nothing at all even though he was positive they came from Crossmolina. I later found out that the TWIG name came from TOUGHY.... whodaguessed THAT name spelling!? Suddenly I found several records for him. Just saying that is a distinct possiblity since we know they came from Crossmolina and are not finding anything significant.
I also checked the Flax done in 1798 and found no Macky or MacKeys ect. Now the Tithe and Flax does not list EVERONE in the parish, only those participation in the progroms.
Good luck!
Diski
I have search all my databases and haven't found any McKey, McKay.. ect. in my Catholic or Church of Ireland vital records. And, as I have stated many times, any time before the 1850s is very early for the registers.And you have the unfortunate timing of being near the famine which of course, decimate the Irish population.
I would suggest you keep a VERY open mind while doing Irish research as far as names and its spellings (dates as well!). Prior to 1900 many names were spelled how the person writing the info down heard it. McKey could be spelled a variety of ways-with or without the Mc or Mac in front, Kay, Key Cay Cey? Imagine yourself hearing the name with a brogue your unfamiliar with. Many people back then couldn't read or write so they couldn't spell it either. You can imagine how messed up records got! As far as dates go, the general population had no need to know birth dates until the Old Age pensions came about. Everything was a guess- dates in the census could vary wildly from decade to decade. Also, the year of birth may need to be 'adjusted' so that they could marry, or join the army.or any other reason. Dates and name spelling are not concrete!
I DID find info on Mackie Macky (can you see how McKey might SOUND like Macky?) but only in COI records:
1804 Confirm Michael Mackin
1817 Confirm Edward and Robert Mackin
May 7 1819 Burial of Edward Mackin, 27y of Knocklegela
1807 Feb 8 Marriage Peter Macky and Mary Peters
I also found this:
Jan 1847 Mary, born to Thomas Macky?? and Eliza Lally, of Crossmolina Town.
(I couldn't read the surname clearly unfortunately).
The records for Church of Ireland covered several parishes but I only copied what was readily available for Crossmolina as I don't have COI ancestors. This was obtained from LDS film # 897365 should you wish to pursue that avenue.
As I mentioned, if you know your family was Catholic, the early records were very poor. See my intro for further explanation of this.
I also looked into the Tithe Applotment and didn't find any McKey Mackie Macky...
All in all, an unsatisfying few hours! Maybe you could check in with North Mayo and ask them for info-they have all cemetery records as well as births. They can also give suggestions for further research.
http://www.northmayogenealogy.com/
I also wonder if the MaKey name originated from another name. I was doing research for a fellow that was looking for the name TWIGG. I found nothing at all even though he was positive they came from Crossmolina. I later found out that the TWIG name came from TOUGHY.... whodaguessed THAT name spelling!? Suddenly I found several records for him. Just saying that is a distinct possiblity since we know they came from Crossmolina and are not finding anything significant.
I also checked the Flax done in 1798 and found no Macky or MacKeys ect. Now the Tithe and Flax does not list EVERONE in the parish, only those participation in the progroms.
Good luck!
Diski
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Mayo / Re: Crossmolina Church Records
« on: Sunday 03 September 17 16:57 BST (UK) »
Hello Youngie1
I also have the Dooher surname in my Sweeney line. I am wondering if you have more info on John, the son of Anthony.I am wondering if we might have a connection here. My John Dooher married Mary Cawley. Do you know more about Michael? Have any of your Doohers gone to Syracuse NY in the late 1890-1920s?
I have a LOT of Dooher info from the One name study I did not just from Crossmolina, but Kilfian, and all parishes in North Mayo, and maybe between the 2 of us we can piece together some logic out of all these names and family groups I have acquired.
I do have three births of Anthony Dooher and Mary McAvock that you probably already have:
Bridget b 1869, Catherine 1871 and Ann 1873. I have no others, nor a marriage for them.
Sadly, the births of Anthony, 1841 and all his siblings, are too early for most Catholic registers.
So rather than look for just John Dooher, I tried to search under Dooher for at least some of the children that were born that early and still no luck. Its just to early unfortunately.
However, through my correspondence in searching out MY Dooher line I have found that my Johns father was also a John, possibly from Cooneal.
We should email privately, as its too much info for this list.I will PM my email address to you.
Diski
I also have the Dooher surname in my Sweeney line. I am wondering if you have more info on John, the son of Anthony.I am wondering if we might have a connection here. My John Dooher married Mary Cawley. Do you know more about Michael? Have any of your Doohers gone to Syracuse NY in the late 1890-1920s?
I have a LOT of Dooher info from the One name study I did not just from Crossmolina, but Kilfian, and all parishes in North Mayo, and maybe between the 2 of us we can piece together some logic out of all these names and family groups I have acquired.
I do have three births of Anthony Dooher and Mary McAvock that you probably already have:
Bridget b 1869, Catherine 1871 and Ann 1873. I have no others, nor a marriage for them.
Sadly, the births of Anthony, 1841 and all his siblings, are too early for most Catholic registers.
So rather than look for just John Dooher, I tried to search under Dooher for at least some of the children that were born that early and still no luck. Its just to early unfortunately.
However, through my correspondence in searching out MY Dooher line I have found that my Johns father was also a John, possibly from Cooneal.
We should email privately, as its too much info for this list.I will PM my email address to you.
Diski
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Mayo / Re: Crossmolina Church Records
« on: Wednesday 17 May 17 20:08 BST (UK) »
I am confused- are we looking for a Mark Gough, or John and Bridget (Dooher) McGoff?
Soundlamp, PLEASE read my original post on Crossmolina church records so I don't have to pull info from you. I am more than happy to help but I don't have the patience to filter or assume info.
Also, is your ancestor FROM Crossmolina, or is this a guess?
Thank you,
Diane Sweeney Groman
Soundlamp, PLEASE read my original post on Crossmolina church records so I don't have to pull info from you. I am more than happy to help but I don't have the patience to filter or assume info.
Also, is your ancestor FROM Crossmolina, or is this a guess?
Thank you,
Diane Sweeney Groman
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Mayo / Re: Crossmolina Church Records
« on: Monday 24 October 16 20:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Ebeth,
I am not a scholar on the subject but have heard that many left Ireland to work in Scotland digging tatties (potatoes). It was part time employment-possibly in summer but not sure. They often brought young children too if they could dig. I want to say they went for 6 months and then, when the work was done they came back via boats. I would imagine some stayed if they found work that extended there stay. Domestic servants and farm labors were needed skills.
I did find a James born 11 Apr 1775 to an Alexander Roe and Mary (maiden unk) in Knockbaun. This was from Church of Ireland records. There were other Rowe/Row in the townland as well
I am not a scholar on the subject but have heard that many left Ireland to work in Scotland digging tatties (potatoes). It was part time employment-possibly in summer but not sure. They often brought young children too if they could dig. I want to say they went for 6 months and then, when the work was done they came back via boats. I would imagine some stayed if they found work that extended there stay. Domestic servants and farm labors were needed skills.
I did find a James born 11 Apr 1775 to an Alexander Roe and Mary (maiden unk) in Knockbaun. This was from Church of Ireland records. There were other Rowe/Row in the townland as well
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Hi JackK
I assume that the first Sabina b 1855 died. You may want to contact North Mayo Heritage center and hire them to 'give me all records pertaining to Gillespy'- you may get more info-with family groups.
I did that with my Sweeneys and it was very enlightening. There are a lot of Gillespies though and I don't know how much they charge.
I assume that the first Sabina b 1855 died. You may want to contact North Mayo Heritage center and hire them to 'give me all records pertaining to Gillespy'- you may get more info-with family groups.
I did that with my Sweeneys and it was very enlightening. There are a lot of Gillespies though and I don't know how much they charge.
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Mayo / Lynn Gillespy Gillespie
« on: Thursday 09 June 16 21:09 BST (UK) »
Yes, I have a good many names in the register for this couple. The spelling variant for Lynn were Leymon, Lemin,Lyon, Lamin...:Sabinas name was written Sibby, and sometimes as Sarah.
Aug 1861 Rose: 17 Dec 1848 Mary: 1 Dec 1850 Catherine: 17 Feb 1855 Sabina: Feb 1857 Sibby: 13 Mar 1859 John: 22 June 1865 TWINS Patrick and Margaret: 17 Dec 1852 Margaret (must have died): 23 Jan 1870 Thomas.
Witness were (all Lynn surnames-) Michael John, Patk, Hugh, Cath.,Mary. Tho and Cate Gillespy, Mary Gillespy, Sibby Gillespy, and Mary Dyra.
Aug 1861 Rose: 17 Dec 1848 Mary: 1 Dec 1850 Catherine: 17 Feb 1855 Sabina: Feb 1857 Sibby: 13 Mar 1859 John: 22 June 1865 TWINS Patrick and Margaret: 17 Dec 1852 Margaret (must have died): 23 Jan 1870 Thomas.
Witness were (all Lynn surnames-) Michael John, Patk, Hugh, Cath.,Mary. Tho and Cate Gillespy, Mary Gillespy, Sibby Gillespy, and Mary Dyra.
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Mayo / Martin, Kerby
« on: Thursday 09 June 16 20:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Clarro
I could find no records for your family. Do you have a village name for them? That may help when the early records are so difficult to decipher.
Strangley enough, I have no males using the Kirby surname but do have females. However, none marrying into the Martin line.
I also have no Martin females marrying into the Curley line.
If they were from Addergoole, you should of course, look in those records as well. That might be your best bet.
I could find no records for your family. Do you have a village name for them? That may help when the early records are so difficult to decipher.
Strangley enough, I have no males using the Kirby surname but do have females. However, none marrying into the Martin line.
I also have no Martin females marrying into the Curley line.
If they were from Addergoole, you should of course, look in those records as well. That might be your best bet.
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Mayo / Re: Crossmolina Church Records
« on: Thursday 09 June 16 20:31 BST (UK) »
As always, I appologise for the vey late response!
I have no McKeys in the database at all. You can read my intro concerning the records, but the time frame for your ancestors is earlier than my church records begin. I tried looking for just Thomas and Mary without using given names and came up with nothing.
Do you have another spelling variant that I could try?
Same goes for Forrester-none that early. I also checked Forrestal, which is more common-but again its far to early for the church records.
I have no McKeys in the database at all. You can read my intro concerning the records, but the time frame for your ancestors is earlier than my church records begin. I tried looking for just Thomas and Mary without using given names and came up with nothing.
Do you have another spelling variant that I could try?
Same goes for Forrester-none that early. I also checked Forrestal, which is more common-but again its far to early for the church records.