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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Sunday 11 February 24 19:38 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Sunday 11 February 24 06:55 GMT (UK)
Nothing found for Isabella Wilkinson.
1851 there is an Edward Wilkinson age 8 who I can't find either there is one in Gateshead 1842 but that seems too far away.
Registration wasn't mandatory so finding a baptism would be helpful.

1851 there is an Edward Robinson age 11, which would indicate William was a widower. It seems the two widowed parties just moved in together and in was a coincidence about the marriage entry.

 

I ordered the digital copy of William Robinson’s 1845 birth, to see if it gave any clues but she is just named as Mary Robinson formerly Burrell. Would it have been normal for Wilkinson to be listed there?

The 1851 census just feels a bit odd to me.with the diffferent ages of kids and being unable to find corresponding birth records for Isabella or Edward Wilkinson. Or any further record of Edward Wilkinson.

The 1861 census also confuses me it’s got two Wilkinson grandchildren on it, but can’t match them up anywhere.

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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Friday 09 February 24 20:13 GMT (UK)  »
Great thank you, that rules it out that the marriage relates to the Mary Wilkinson nee Burrell that I am interested in

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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Friday 09 February 24 19:45 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for the death record.

It wasn't showing on freebmd but have found it on the gro index and got a digital record - my Matthew, her son was the informant so that is an added bonus in terms of more evidence of that link.

Re the 1851 census.

A Margaret of similar age is also recorded with Mary, now Robinson, so that confuses me more. I was wondering if it could be possible they were at uncles and recorded twice.

I’m wondering if birth details of Isabella Wilkinson abt 1840, with Mary in 1841 (and 1851 with age out) may help, as can’t find any birth records that would match with Matthew being her father as he died mid 1838. Can you see any possibles worth looking at? 
 

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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Thursday 08 February 24 13:49 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: JenB on Thursday 08 February 24 12:30 GMT (UK)
Quote from: amondg on Thursday 08 February 24 12:22 GMT (UK)
Notes - transcription only on FindMyPast

Jonathan Wilkinson married Esther Anderson (sp) ? 13 August 1840 Houghton le Spring
His father Jonathan Wilkinson
Her father Thomas Anderson

Need the original to see if it's a transcription error.

Transcription only on ancestry says Jonathan is a widower

This marriage has been transcribed independently on Durham Records Online. https://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php

A bit of cross-referencing on a search of the index confirms that Jonathan's father was also called Jonathan, and that Esther's father was called Thomas. Abode at the time of marriage was Collier Row.

Brilliant, thank you both.

So this goes back to a Jonathan of about the right age being on the 1851 census with Jonathan Wilkinson and Esther (along with another niece Margaret). Why would Margery Alderson have been recorded as a lodger rather than mother in law?

Where do you think this leaves the possibility of my Jonathan being the son of Matthew Wilkinson 1808 & Mary Burrell?

Could he have been recorded twice on the 1851 census? Do you think there possibility he was incorrectly recorded as Mathew on the 1841 census? Or is that too far fetched.


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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Thursday 08 February 24 13:39 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Thursday 08 February 24 12:32 GMT (UK)
Northumberland and Durham Memorials  ref: FindMyPast

In memory of Elizabeth  Wilkinson the beloved wife of Jonathan Wilkinson of Moorsley  who died September 16th 1896 age 64
Also Elizabeth Ann their daughter who died April 22nd 1873 aged 17 also Margery Milburn their daughter who died March 18th 1889 aged 31.

Thank you very much for this - I’ve gone back to my records and reminded myself I never found a death certificate for Elizabeth (I have Jonathan’s from 1906).
I’ve had a quick look but still unable to find an obvious death record even with the date.

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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Wednesday 07 February 24 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
Matthew Wilkinson, 1852, Hetton-le-hole, who marries Elizabeth Robinson, 1858 (not yet had chance to look into a potential Robinson link).

I have a copy of a photo of Matthew with his 3 brothers, Jonathan, John Thomas & George Alderson taken in 1921.

To your earlier question, I don’t have the 1838 accident report for Matthew abt 1807, so all I have is what has been noted on the Durham Mining Museum website and don’t know if the reference to Mary and children came from a documented record or a family researcher.

I get very confused on this line too - think because the line back if right, goes Matthew Wilkinson, Jonathan Wilkinson, Mathew Wilkinson then Jonathan Wilkinson and get them muddled up!

Thanks again! 




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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Wednesday 07 February 24 13:53 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I guess their eldest son being registered in Auckland rather than Stockton may give further clues.

I did have one other ancestor who was widowed twice young, so will look into that too.

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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Wednesday 07 February 24 13:15 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: amondg on Monday 05 February 24 19:57 GMT (UK)
William Robinson married Mary Wilkinson September quarter 1843 registered Stockton Vol 24 page 165


To update on this, apparently this isn’t their marriage. Just had an email back from the GRO, saying although they are on the same page they didn’t marry each other.

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Durham / Re: Matthew Wilkinson 1807-1838 death and family
« on: Tuesday 06 February 24 17:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for all of this amondg!

Just to clarify - I believe this Dorothy Burrell died 1857 in Windy Nook (where I think she was in the 1851 census).

I’ve ordered the digital record and it lists Joseph Burrell as her husband and the witness, in attendance is Martin Dodds, who I mentioned is also named as a witness to at Matthew Wilkinson/Mary Burrell’s wedding.

 

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