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World War Two / Re: Royal Navy 1920s? Uniform Identification
« on: Monday 14 January 08 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Oil. Looting in Basra. I think we must have got the dates mixed up 
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World War Two / Re: Royal Navy 1920s? Uniform Identification
« on: Monday 14 January 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Neil,
Arms runners in the Gulf. Nothing changes..
It sounds like the picture does fit with family legend.
I said earlier that I thought he had a lucky escape and I was referring to the theory that he finished his navy days as a Master At Arms on the HMS Hood. Luckily it seems he left the navy before WW2 so avoided being sunk by the Bismarck:-)
Am not sure when he left as he originally signed up for 12 years in 1911 but was still going strong in 1928. Perhaps he was also recalled/volunteered in WW2 (he would have been 46 in 1939) to the merchant navy or something.
I have also noticed something else. In the remarks section of his service card there is an entry which says "Passed for K.R.A 15.9.24" or similar. Below his record is the record for another person who was also a Regulating Petty Officer and in their remarks section it says "Passed for M.A.A 17.9.23". Could William's record really read "Passed for M.A.A", but in bad handwriting, and for it to stand for "Passed for Master At Arms"?
Thanks Again,
Hedgehog
Arms runners in the Gulf. Nothing changes..
It sounds like the picture does fit with family legend.
I said earlier that I thought he had a lucky escape and I was referring to the theory that he finished his navy days as a Master At Arms on the HMS Hood. Luckily it seems he left the navy before WW2 so avoided being sunk by the Bismarck:-)
Am not sure when he left as he originally signed up for 12 years in 1911 but was still going strong in 1928. Perhaps he was also recalled/volunteered in WW2 (he would have been 46 in 1939) to the merchant navy or something.
I have also noticed something else. In the remarks section of his service card there is an entry which says "Passed for K.R.A 15.9.24" or similar. Below his record is the record for another person who was also a Regulating Petty Officer and in their remarks section it says "Passed for M.A.A 17.9.23". Could William's record really read "Passed for M.A.A", but in bad handwriting, and for it to stand for "Passed for Master At Arms"?
Thanks Again,
Hedgehog
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World War Two / Re: Royal Navy 1920s? Uniform Identification
« on: Monday 14 January 08 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Easy,
Yes I had read that about swords too. Just found a good page on the Regulating Branch at http://www.rba93.com/history.htm. It says:-
"In 1879, to indicate his special position, the M.A.A. was permitted to wear a frock coat and carry a sword. To be distinguishable from the officers' dress, the coat was to have 4 buttons instead of 5 and the sword was to be plain with a black hilt."
The sword and buttons fit in with the photo but not sure about the sword.
I had assumed the lapel badge was just a standard RN badge but the Master At Arms did seem to have a crown in a wreath badge as displayed here:- http://www.kellybadge.co.uk/images/M2O503.jpg. Not sure if my photo shows this; it is difinitely a wreath but what is in it is dufficult to make out.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to get my hands on the original of the picture to try re-scanning it. Best I could do was to try enhancing the contrast, etc. to get a better view of the medals.
He seems to have 4 round ones and a star. I guess the star is the WW1 1914-15 Royal Navy Star and two of the round ones must be the WW1 Victory Medal and British War Medal medals? Could one of the others be a Royal Navy Long Service & Good Conduct Medal?
Thanks,
hogHedge
Yes I had read that about swords too. Just found a good page on the Regulating Branch at http://www.rba93.com/history.htm. It says:-
"In 1879, to indicate his special position, the M.A.A. was permitted to wear a frock coat and carry a sword. To be distinguishable from the officers' dress, the coat was to have 4 buttons instead of 5 and the sword was to be plain with a black hilt."
The sword and buttons fit in with the photo but not sure about the sword.
I had assumed the lapel badge was just a standard RN badge but the Master At Arms did seem to have a crown in a wreath badge as displayed here:- http://www.kellybadge.co.uk/images/M2O503.jpg. Not sure if my photo shows this; it is difinitely a wreath but what is in it is dufficult to make out.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to get my hands on the original of the picture to try re-scanning it. Best I could do was to try enhancing the contrast, etc. to get a better view of the medals.
He seems to have 4 round ones and a star. I guess the star is the WW1 1914-15 Royal Navy Star and two of the round ones must be the WW1 Victory Medal and British War Medal medals? Could one of the others be a Royal Navy Long Service & Good Conduct Medal?
Thanks,
hogHedge
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World War Two / Re: Royal Navy 1920s? Uniform Identification
« on: Monday 14 January 08 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Probably, but getting more distant.
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World War Two / Re: El Alamein & 9th Queens Royal Lancers Info
« on: Monday 14 January 08 11:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, very interesting, esp. the piccies.
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World War Two / Re: El Alamein & 9th Queens Royal Lancers Info
« on: Saturday 12 January 08 14:46 GMT (UK) »
No he was from Bucks.
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World War Two / Re: El Alamein & 9th Queens Royal Lancers Info
« on: Saturday 12 January 08 14:37 GMT (UK) »
Military Medal
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World War Two / Re: Royal Navy 1920s? Uniform Identification
« on: Saturday 12 January 08 14:33 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Annie, those are two other Ticehursts. Alfred was in the navy from 1912-22. He had a brother called Archie (A.Ticehurst) in the ASC, a cousin and an uncle both called Alfred and a third cousin also called Alfred who died in 1915. And they moved around villages..
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World War Two / Re: El Alamein & 9th Queens Royal Lancers Info
« on: Saturday 12 January 08 14:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks scrimnet, I will give it a go.