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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters new series
« on: Friday 27 July 18 15:27 BST (UK)  »
that big case from today, F&F also worked signed a lot of heirs that is why they didn't show the pat side of the family. I think we found out earlier than Finders that there was a will hence why we stopped.

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The Common Room / Re: Heir Hunters.....Just Wondering?
« on: Tuesday 24 July 18 17:53 BST (UK)  »
 Familysearch
no only the full blood cousin would inherit not the 1/2 blood

but don't for get Joan's mothers (or fathers) family

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The Lighter Side / Heir Hunters star, David Pacifico RIP
« on: Thursday 21 June 18 12:57 BST (UK)  »
This is just a quick message to some of you who may have watched Heir Hunters over the years and remember David Pacifico.

David unfortunately passed away on Monday 11th June after a very short illness.

I am attaching a link to our webpage where I have written a short piece https://www.fraserandfraser.co.uk/rip-david-pacifico/

David will be deeply missed, may he rest in peace

Neil Fraser

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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters new series
« on: Wednesday 23 May 18 10:11 BST (UK)  »
I will make sure we call the 1939 National Identity Register by its correct name! we generally call it the "39" but when we are asked to do VO several times it sometimes gets miss named

What is a shame, several years ago I did a huge piece to camera to explain about different records in particular the 1939 register, it was going to replace a whole story so take up 15 minutes of the program, but as it was mainly Fraser's staff doing the talking the BBC thought it may be too much of a promotional piece rather than informative so cut it.

It is good the register is now available on Ancestry.

Did you know

I could go on about this for hours as it is something I have an interest in having been shown the ballroom on my first visit to Southport GRO in 2000




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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters new series
« on: Thursday 10 May 18 13:19 BST (UK)  »
Sorry I forgot to post a message telling everyone here the program was to be shown, it took me a little by surprise as I was expecting it in the summer, The other 10 programs will probably be shown early August the same as Series 11 was.

I was also sworn not to mention Michael Buerk joining the program. He may not be to all of your tastes but he was a pleasure to work with, the most professional person I have dealt with in the TV industry.

Everyone here will prefer series 1-4 of the program not only because it was new (and featured me a lot more!) but because it was more about research than social history. The stories were all filmed "live" it was Series 5 where we introduced "retro" stories.

Retro stories are a lot easier to film and importantly cheaper, there is a script for most of it as the story is already know, all the heirs have been found and the social history discovered before they first camera is picked up.

Live cases have a lot more research but several are filmed before a good one is found and taken further.

Fraser and Fraser were the only firm doing live case from series 4-10, we then stopped doing so many because it is so much harder to film and really slowed us down, the program was shifting more to Social history and less on research so there was nothing to gain. You must remember that series 1-4 we were at the Family Record Center or in the office and doing manual research without computers, a birth search could take 20 man hours so there was a lot to film, even in this time some of our searches were on computer and we would have to recreate the image on microfilm so as not to tell everyone we had computerised records. Now it takes 20 seconds to do a search and a person sitting at a PC doing one search is very similar to the next person doing something different. Hence there is more social history. When we were working on them last the production company liked showing all our work where we had taken a gamble as a mistake, or where were were 2nd to an heir as a lost case, forgetting that we had signed the other 95% of heirs or by taking a gamble we were a day ahead of the competition, Spec research should never be shown as a mistake only a way to get a shortcut that doesn't always pay off, or some time we will work 2 or 3 families knowing that only one will be correct, again hardley a mistake. I had arguments about this and it was one of the main reasons we stopped them, I just had nothing to gain.

Finders currently try some live case and for those who watched the first 10 programs you will have seen them look at some cases that are less than £10k just to make it look like they are busy. F&F wont do this if we start a case and find no value we drop it, for me I just have too much other work that is not filmed and too many staff to waste time on a story just to make the firm look good on tv. I have removed the other things I could say about finders! but to me a £3,000 live case and I think there were 3 in the first part of the series didn't make good stories, there is little research and poor social history.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Heir Hunters new series
« on: Thursday 10 May 18 12:48 BST (UK)  »
Andrew is only allowed to enter the property after we have found the heirs and got authorisation. I am afraid there is a bit of artistic license used to distort time to make a bit more of a story.

read the next post for more info on making the programs.

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The Common Room / Re: Heir Hunting companies
« on: Thursday 10 May 18 12:25 BST (UK)  »
Trees,

Please contact the office and we will try and explain the situation,

We would usually do our best to find everyone involved, but are limited to what we are instructed to do.
I don't know what the situation is in this case but it may be that we have been instructed by the State's (Australian) Public Trustee and asked only to look into one bit of the family.

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The Common Room / Re: Heir Hunting companies
« on: Thursday 10 May 18 12:19 BST (UK)  »
Rosinish is correct

Please be really careful about what you quote on these sites. The law around the world is different so don't just quote English and Welsh law and assume it is the same. Some of you will also know that the Law in Scotland is different when it comes to who is entitled and also how we split the estate for distribution.

Mike I am sorry but a Dead person can inherit, if they have obtained a "Vested Interest" to the original estate.

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The Common Room / Re: Heir Hunting companies
« on: Wednesday 28 March 18 17:53 BST (UK)  »
If you are ever are contacted by an heir hunter and want free advice and to confirm that the firm is real the look at our web page or contact us vir the web page or dm on here

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