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Westmorland / vis /Rudd of Stainmore,Westmorland
« on: Wednesday 28 February 18 09:07 GMT (UK)  »
My ggrandparents.George and Elizabeth Hydes married and lived in Evenwood,Durham before migrating to New Zealand.

The marriage certificate lists Elizabeth's father as
Robert Davis and her NZ death certificate similarly has father as Robert Davies,occupation miner and her mother as Sarah Rod.In researching her parents the most likely fit appears from 1841 census :-
                    Robert Davis   age 40 -44  born out of county
   implied wife   Sarah             age 40- 44 born out of county
and implied children Thomas,John,James,Sarah,Mary,Elizabeth -the latter age 1
and residence Evenwood,Durham.

I also have found a marriage record for Robert Davis and Sarah Rudd in Brough under Stainmore,Westmorland 27/12/1821.
Another on line record shows a christening for John Davis,father Robert ,mother Sarah at Toll Barr,Mickleton,Yorkshire.
Given Robert's occupation as a miner I suspect the family perhaps moved around the top of England seeking work opportunities.

So now I'm trying to get definitive vital details for both Robert and Sarah.While the above cited 1841census has place of birth "out of county",this is confirmed in the 1851 and 1861 C where Stainmore and Longrig,Westmorland are their listed birth places.

But immediately I strike a brickwall as records for Sarah Rudd show-
                (1) baptised 14-1-1798  birth place Appleby
                father Anthony Rudd   mother Jane Blackett

       and   (2)  baptised 1-9-1799  birth place Brackenbur,Appleby
                father John Rudd     mother Margaret Hornsby

 Appreciative of any help or suggestions with my dilemma.Please excuse any delays in reply to responders of this request -it comes from New Zealand so time differences may contribute .

Thanks
Milt 

   
 

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Somerset / TAVENER family,Stoke under Hawdon
« on: Monday 09 October 17 10:13 BST (UK)  »
The 1911 NZ death certificate of my ggrandmother,Elizabeth Anthony lists her parents as George Robbins and Elizabeth Robbins formerly Tavener.A copy of the latters death certificate (ie Elizabeth Robbins) reconfirms George as her spouse, married 25/12/1853 St Pancras,London and also gives her parents as Peter and Catherine (born Young); farmers.

From the 1841 Census I have found presumably the correct ancestral link as below:

          Peter and Catherine Tavener living in Stoke under Hamdon,Somerset and (implied) children
         
           Maria          20- 24
            James        20 - 24
           Mary            15 - 19
           Elizabeth       12
           Harriot            1

Given the age span of the family I suspect Harriot may be the child of Maria or James.Then I find the marriage of Maria to John Whitehead in Yeovil,1850 and that family listed in the 1851 census as:-
          John Whitehead   Head          33
          Maria Whitehead  Wife           33
          Harriett Tavener   Dau in law   11
           Lewis   Tavener   Son in law     8
           Mary Whitehead  Daughter      10 months

 However I am unable to find records for Peter and Catherine Tavener apart from the 1841C listing.

  Would be grateful for any assistance for this couple. Surname variants differ between Tavener,Taverner and Taviner!!

Thanks for any leads
Milt       

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: Mary Ann King (bStanley) of Dorset and Jersey
« on: Tuesday 18 July 17 11:33 BST (UK)  »
Apologies for the delay in response but I have not had access to my computer for 2 days.

Thank you sincerely Solidrock and Kay for all the info.You answered all my queries and gave additional interesting facts re Crate family eg prison records that I would never have known existed and to the census listing for the family.My failure to find the King /Stanley marriage in Dorset or Jersey nicely explained by its happening in France.
 I did know of Charles King and future descendants of his viz Gallies of Jersey involvement in the merchant navy.
Aside from my delight in receiving this I am amazed at how quick this was expedited -I posted my request in the afternoon New Zealand time(ie early am England) and had your replies within hours.Don't you sleep ?http://cdn.rootschat.com/forum/Smileys/classic/wink.gif

Again my appreciation
Milt   

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Mary Ann King (bStanley) of Dorset and Jersey
« on: Sunday 16 July 17 02:46 BST (UK)  »
Records show Mary Ann Stanley was bpt at Holy Trinity,Dorchester 11-2-1857 and her parents listed as William(deceased) and Catherine.
St George,Fordington burial index lists a William Styanley (assume a typo error) died /buried 3/7/1856 age 29so I presume this could be Mary Ann's father.
Marriage banns 24-11-1851 for Christchurch,W Fordington detail William Napoleon Stanley a bachelor a chimney sweep resident at Fordington married to Catherine CREATE a 19 a spinster a labourer resident of Fordington father unknown.

Mary Ann Stanley and Charles Phelp King later raised a family and lived in St Heliers,Jersey although I have not been able to locate marriage records for this couple in Dorset or Channel Islands.
The 1891 census of St Heliers lists Mary Ann King a 35 b England Unmarried,wives own means,her 6 children and Catherine LUEN a 60 mother, widow.
Similarly, 1911 census for Jersey lists Mary Ann King a 56 b Dorchester with 2 older daughters and Catherine Lurn (again presume typo) a 74 mother. I have taken Catherine as mother of Mary Ann.

So from all this I am trying to get specific records for :-
              1  Mary Ann Stanley & Charles Phelp King marriage
               2 the 2 Catherine's (Create and Luen/Lurn ) are they the same and can anyone help with Catherine Create profile.

Thanks
Milt       

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: John Arthur STEELE(1887 - 1969) *COMPLETED*
« on: Saturday 23 August 14 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Brendan,
          Wonderful to hear from you especially as  your great grandfather is the one I have been after as his children you list -Joan,Trevor and (*) -are people my mother talked about  and/or had  contact with in the past
Would appreciate further contact to update records of Steel family.

Cheers
Milton

(*) Moderator comment:
Name of living person removed

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Mary Wilson
« on: Thursday 06 January 11 07:41 GMT (UK)  »
What a wonderful surprise to return from my Xmas/New Year holiday and find your message GenTips.I am blown away by all the info you have supplied especially covering a period so long ago.To encompass one large family and their christening and/or death dates in one go together with other family relationships is something highly unlikelythat I could ever have acheived from here.
Whow -what a start to my year!
Sincere thanks
Milt 

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New Zealand Completed Requests / John Arthur STEELE(1887 - 1969) *COMPLETED*
« on: Wednesday 04 August 10 11:38 BST (UK)  »
Trying to trace the ancestors of John Steele,younger brother of my grandmother.
 The Steele family moved to NZ during the 1880,altho' I can't find specific records of this.
John married Alice Bailey in 1914 and they resided in Auckland.

 Any further info greatly appreciated.
 Milt

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Mary Wilson
« on: Friday 30 July 10 09:54 BST (UK)  »
Again Posteria my heartfelt thanks for supplying these details.To be able to piece one family's history, encompassing 3 decades ,all in one hit is truely appreciated from afar.Without your help it would have taken so much time and cost to get this.
All my thanks
Milt.

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Mary Wilson
« on: Thursday 29 July 10 09:24 BST (UK)  »
Brilliant posteria. I concur you have found the correct person as well as supplying previously unknown info. The census data you supplied correlates with regard to birthdates that I had for both Mark Dowson COOPER and one of his sons,Isaac  -my gggrandfather.
My sincere appreciation posteria from New Zealand where Isaac ultimately emigrated to
 
 Milt.

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