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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: MARY ANN DURELL -b Stepney 1849
« on: Friday 17 November 06 15:57 GMT (UK)  »
I can't see it but could it say licenced beer seller man?

'cos he is a beer seller on Eliza's birth cert (1853) and a Victualler on the wedding cert (also 1853)

Sue

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: MARY ANN DURELL -b Stepney 1849
« on: Friday 17 November 06 11:05 GMT (UK)  »
Well done - all of you.

I feel quite redundant sitting here waiting for you to come up with all the answers!!

I quess my next query is about Richard and Mary Durell who appear to be Abbott/Habbit 's parents or maybe try and find out why Mary and Abel didn't marry until 1853.

SueB

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: MARY ANN DURELL -b Stepney 1849
« on: Friday 17 November 06 10:33 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Daisy

Love the "bumboat man" but water seems to come in quite a lot as he was a stevedore i 1863 when he died and a coal whipper in 1847 which is also connected with the water.

sue

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: MARY ANN DURELL -b Stepney 1849
« on: Friday 17 November 06 09:05 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at this it all seems to fit except for the age of Habbit who should be 2 if he was born (as per birth certficate) in 1849.

I'm wondering if Habbit could have died before the census and Abel is another child born in 1851 who we haven't found yet ..........................

Sue

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 BETNALL GREEN please
« on: Sunday 12 November 06 13:13 GMT (UK)  »
On 2nd looks I don't think it is Apple Street.  I'm not much good with this fancy script writing used by Thos.Howard the registrar on all my family's birth certificates........... His capital A for Abbott is definitely not like the first letter in this street name.  Sorry for all the confusion.

It could be O - G or Y -  P or K - E.

I will have to get someone else to scan the cert and email it to me and then I'll email on to you again. Shall I send Mary Ann Clara's as well?  I'm wondering if the marriage cert of Abel Durrell and Mary Ann Becraft is really the Habbitt Durrell after all....

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 BETNALL GREEN please
« on: Saturday 11 November 06 22:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

I was just going to let you know that I have also been doing some work tonight!!

I've found 7 children belonging to Richard and Mary - Richard, Mary Elizabeth, John, Richard (do they replace the names when a child dies?) Sarah Hannah, HABBIT,James and John ...

Since I began this family's tree I have had a sheet of B,M,D's of Durell's and it has finally come into some use BUT it never would without your help.  I certainly would never have thought of HABBITT as ABBOT or even ABEL.

I did send for Habbit's and Mary Ann's birth certs when I got the parents marriage one. (No expense spared in this household) details as follows:-

19.09.1849 HABBIT. father Habbit Durrell,(laborer)mother Mury Durrell formerly Beacroft
8.06.1847 Mary Ann Clara, father Abbot Durrell(coal whipper) mother Mary Durrell formerly Beacroft
2 Apple Street, BG

So I think they must have been pretending to be married which must have been quite daring in those days - unless there is another marriage pre 1849.

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 BETNALL GREEN please
« on: Saturday 11 November 06 20:02 GMT (UK)  »
I feel really guilty that I have been away for a couple of days celebrating my birthday while you folk have been so diligently searching for "my" Abbot.

Wedding certificate:  Mary Ann Becraft is full age and her condition is Spn (presumably spinster).
The witnesses are John Becraft and Mary Ann Becraft.

I like the connection with beer because I have been told Abbott was at the White Swan ,24 Wappin Wall in 1855 and at the Earl of Chatham in 1859.  these came from Pubsindex but are not confirmed with the 1851 as there is an Elizabeth Dornay? as the licensed victualler at 24 Wappng Wall.

Also in 1876 there is a M A Durell, a beer retailer at 57 Great Green Street.

Thank you all for taking such an interest in this family.

SusB

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 BETNALL GREEN please
« on: Thursday 09 November 06 21:42 GMT (UK)  »
Well.....

unfortunately it is Richard Durell, weaver and John Becraft, sail maker.

SueB

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: MARY ANN DURELL -b Stepney 1849
« on: Monday 06 November 06 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
Just in case a anyone is interested I have now got the certificate for ABEL DURRELL and MARY ANNE BECRAFT - 16 Feb 1853. Abel (Abbott) living at 10 Cottage Street and Mary at 5 Wall Street which I presume was in Poplar as that is where they were married.  Abel's father is Richard Durrell , a weaver.

So if anyone has time to look on the 1841 for either family I would be most grateful

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