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Mayo / Re: Kilconduff Church Records 1830-1850s Still looking
« on: Sunday 25 May 08 06:36 BST (UK) »
To Sheila,
I have been busy and may seem inattentive but am excited to find a third cousin doing a lot of research on the same people that I am collecting info on. You seem to be on a good course of discovery.
Let me address a few of the points that you raised. I am in Tennessee now but was raised in Plains, Pennsylvania where John and Maria lived. John was a coal miner, as he was in Bilston. I haven't pinned him down in Ireland yet, but know it was County Mayo and have narrowed it to either Drum, Kiconduff or Westport. Kilconduff makes some sense - it would mean that they knew each other before their marriage on March 5, 1854. By the way, I have not been to Bilston and obtained much of my information from The LDS Library in Salt Lake City. I am fortunate to have a son who lives there.
I also believe that Maria, Michael and James were siblings. Often, records just do not exist for births/baptisms and we are forced to rely on lesser proof. They certainly acted like siblings. The 1861 census showed Maria & Michael were next door neighbors. Bernard, Michael's son, lived with John & Maria in 1880 and worked in the Plains' mines. John and Maria were godparents for the birth of Mary Ann Oliver McDonough, born 3/20/1859, and for the twins Caroline & Patrick, born 2/2/1863. Forget the 1816 birthyear for the senior James.
I don't know what "PM" means. What do I have to do on my end?
John, Maria, Mary & Jane left for Pennsylvania in 1865. Anne died in England, on April 21, 1862, of pneumonia. Mary was my gm, but I never knew her. She died on July 21, 1920. (other dates: Maria died 3/31/1897, Jane April 19, 1910, all were in Plains. I was born in April 1934, but had aunts who knew Maria. John Burke died shortly after 1880 - there does not appear to be any record of his death, but his age in the 1880 census was in parentheses and his occupation was "none".)
You are right about there being other John & Mary Burkes in Bilston. There was also John & Mary Kane Burke. (But could Kane and Coyne be the same?) I do believe that a Mary or Maria may have "worked" at the church, since the name appears so often as a sponsor, with many different male godparents.
The records that I hand-copied for Bilston - about 300 entries - were in English, as were the Burke records that I photocopied from the alpha listing.
I have been busy and may seem inattentive but am excited to find a third cousin doing a lot of research on the same people that I am collecting info on. You seem to be on a good course of discovery.
Let me address a few of the points that you raised. I am in Tennessee now but was raised in Plains, Pennsylvania where John and Maria lived. John was a coal miner, as he was in Bilston. I haven't pinned him down in Ireland yet, but know it was County Mayo and have narrowed it to either Drum, Kiconduff or Westport. Kilconduff makes some sense - it would mean that they knew each other before their marriage on March 5, 1854. By the way, I have not been to Bilston and obtained much of my information from The LDS Library in Salt Lake City. I am fortunate to have a son who lives there.
I also believe that Maria, Michael and James were siblings. Often, records just do not exist for births/baptisms and we are forced to rely on lesser proof. They certainly acted like siblings. The 1861 census showed Maria & Michael were next door neighbors. Bernard, Michael's son, lived with John & Maria in 1880 and worked in the Plains' mines. John and Maria were godparents for the birth of Mary Ann Oliver McDonough, born 3/20/1859, and for the twins Caroline & Patrick, born 2/2/1863. Forget the 1816 birthyear for the senior James.
I don't know what "PM" means. What do I have to do on my end?
John, Maria, Mary & Jane left for Pennsylvania in 1865. Anne died in England, on April 21, 1862, of pneumonia. Mary was my gm, but I never knew her. She died on July 21, 1920. (other dates: Maria died 3/31/1897, Jane April 19, 1910, all were in Plains. I was born in April 1934, but had aunts who knew Maria. John Burke died shortly after 1880 - there does not appear to be any record of his death, but his age in the 1880 census was in parentheses and his occupation was "none".)
You are right about there being other John & Mary Burkes in Bilston. There was also John & Mary Kane Burke. (But could Kane and Coyne be the same?) I do believe that a Mary or Maria may have "worked" at the church, since the name appears so often as a sponsor, with many different male godparents.
The records that I hand-copied for Bilston - about 300 entries - were in English, as were the Burke records that I photocopied from the alpha listing.