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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincs, Stickney - Lawrence
« on: Tuesday 15 February 22 15:45 GMT (UK)  »
 Hi

I have not been on RChat for a long while and this is the first time I have seen your reply of being a direct line of George Lawrence son of Richard and Isabel Lawrence.  My link is with John Lawrence 1811 born in Stickney.  John married a Caroline Cavi(e)ll in St Pancras in 1839 and they lived in Chapel Street, St Pancras where John had opened a Millinery/haberdashery shop.  Their first child was William Showler Cavill Lawrence 1843.  William was my grandfather's father, and, it has to be said was a scoundrel.  I have also made contact with another of the descendents of Richard's children and have seen photos of some of the members of the Lawrence children etc.  I would love to exchange info with you.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: William Showler Cavill Lawrence & 'Hilda Lawrence' - died in Doncaster 1911-30
« on: Sunday 28 January 18 13:50 GMT (UK)  »
Actually no, I'm not totally sure as the last recorded item of William prior to the 1911 census was around 1908, noted as a confectioner. On the 1901 census he was running a public house in Kirby le Soken with Hilda.  He was not mentioned on the 19ll census, but Hilda was and she was recorded as being married with 4 children and her employment was that of running a confectionery shop/business.

I have always just assumed that if they moved they would stay together.  I did find a death of a Hilda Lawrence in Doncaster around 1917 but knew that Hilda was not her real name which I believe was Amelia, so continued to look for an Amelia Lawrence with no luck.

Hilda/Amelia had a very interesting life - she was married to a Scotsman and lived in St.Pancras with him and his or their children on the 1881 census.  My Gt. Grandfather was married to a Jane Rawle and they ran a public house in Essex on the 1881 census.  On the 1891 Census Jane was now running the pub with the help of her 6 children and William had left the pub but was running a beer house in Walthamstow.  By the 1901 census he had acquired a new 'wife' and a further 4 children and was running a pub in Kirby le Soken.  Hilda/Amelia must have left the children she had by the Scotsman when she met up with William Lawrence.


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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: William Showler Cavill Lawrence & 'Hilda Lawrence' - died in Doncaster 1911-30
« on: Saturday 27 January 18 21:13 GMT (UK)  »
Miliepede

Yes they both died in Doncaster.  Thanks again.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: William Showler Cavill Lawrence & 'Hilda Lawrence' - died in Doncaster 1911-30
« on: Saturday 27 January 18 21:11 GMT (UK)  »
Millipede

I didn't think the children went up to Doncaster so have been concentrating on the Essex, London area regarding death/marriage/ births for daughters certificates as they had lots of relatives in Essex who they could have stayed with.  Thanks for your help with my query.

JJen.

Thanks so much for all the info you sent.  I didn't expect Dora's marriage info so am really grateful for that.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / William Showler Cavill Lawrence & 'Hilda Lawrence' - died in Doncaster 1911-30
« on: Saturday 27 January 18 16:19 GMT (UK)  »
My great Grandfather William S C Lawrence and his partner/wife Hilda moved from Kirby le-Soken in Essex where they had a confectionery shop in 1911, to I believe Doncaster where Hilda originally came from.

Hilda's real surname was Booth and she was born around 1860 in Norton, Sheffield and her father was a Thomas Booth, a blacksmith also from Norton.  Hilda had 4 children by William 2 sons and two daughters, all born in London or Essex.

William was a Londoner born in St.Pancras in 1841 which makes him over 70 when he decided to move to Doncaster with Hilda, but I don't know if any of their children born 1895, 1897, 1899, 1901 went with them.  One son Sidney died in WW1 while the 2nd son Reginald changed his name to Wiliam Farrow and after a couple of marriages emigrated to Australia.

William had run public houses from 1871 to 1908 while Hilda ran the confectionery shop.

I would like to know if William ran another pub in Doncaster which could be why they moved there.  I would also like to know where they lived in Doncaster and if either daughter went to live in Doncaster with them.


TeWe

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Richard Lawrence - B.1715 in Stow in Lindsey, Lincs
« on: Monday 22 January 18 19:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again,  Sorry I was too quick to respond regarding the Will.  The Will I have a copy of was that of a later Richard whose Will was registered in Stickney.  He was the Richard who died at 45.

I have tried to look up the info on the twins you gave me but find the lincs site quite confusing and difficult.I will try to work it out, in the meantime thanks again for Will info too.

TeWe

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Richard Lawrence - B.1715 in Stow in Lindsey, Lincs
« on: Sunday 21 January 18 15:57 GMT (UK)  »
My goodness its coming thick and fast now!!!!!  Thanks once again Emelton. :D

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Richard Lawrence - B.1715 in Stow in Lindsey, Lincs
« on: Sunday 21 January 18 15:20 GMT (UK)  »
Please can anyone help me in researching the above Richard Lawrence born in 1715 in Stow-in-Lindsey.  Richard had a son born in 1747 and this son married an Elizabeth Crowder born somewhere in Lincolnshire in 1747.  Richard and Elizabeth moved to Stickney in Lincolnshire where Richard's occupation was as a farmer.  They had 9 children all of whom were born in Stow in Lindsey.

One of these children was also called Richard Lawrence. born in 1775 in Stow in Lindsey, married an Isabella Groose in Stickney in 1803c., and  he died in 1820 age 45 in Stickney.

I would love to discover more info  about the original Richard born 1715 i.e.. who he married?, what his occupation was etc.

I am assuming that a local church would have records going back as far as 1715 and I have tried looking on a well known site, but it won't allow me back in as they keep telling me my e-mail address is already registered ( which is probably me but there is no way of explaining that to them).

Thanks for any help you can give me.

TeWe

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London and Middlesex / Re: Moss Levin - Marcus Moses Levin
« on: Friday 27 May 16 21:50 BST (UK)  »
Hi Les, 
Well we went up to Carey Street on Wednesday of this week and were told after much walking around that a small room at the end of a passageway (Court) which led through to No.7 Lincolns Inn, was the workshop many years before of a Watchmaker repairer.  The room was initially one of a few off of the passage and led out to Carey Street and was next door to a pub called Seven Stars.
The proprietor bought the room several years ago and used it after a bit of refurbishing as a smallish dining room for the pub.  She told us the story re the Watchmaker.

We also found a silversmiths in Carey Street who was most unhelpful and denied any knowledge of any other silversmith in the nearby locality.   Then we walked further down Carey St to find that a considerable amount of the area around Serle St has been demolished for future building works.  When we arrived home I wrote to Lincolns Inn to ask if they had anything on the History of the area and a very kind person replied with the info of where Cooks Court used to be, and can you believe it was right where they are doing the future building works.  Unfortunately we were just 1 year too late to see the actually shop Moss worked from.  Did your brother take any photos when he went to see the shop?

Arthur & Tessa

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