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Down / Re: McCance family - County Down
« on: Friday 15 May 09 09:57 BST (UK)  »
Alan,

I see the name Millan being used as a given name in memory of Agnes McCance's first husband Nathaniel McMillan (1807-43) who's buried with his parents (Hamilton & Jane) at Greyabbey. Agnes McCance's second family with John McCance were Martha (Purnell, 1845-1926), Robert Millan (1847-1915), William Henry Millan (1850-1925), Agnes Ann (Duggan 1852-93), Francis Edward (1853-1924). Of Robert Millan McCance's five offspring, three were also named Millan ie Ada Millan (Gibson 1875-1945), Donald Millan (1876-1947) Percy James Millan (1878-1952).

I understand that John McCance promised Nathaniel McMillan to look after Agnes and their boys if anything happened to him. If you haven't read it, it's worth getting David Fitzpatrick's book from the library to get some insight into how the the McCance/McMillan families lived after they arrived in Victoria.

I haven't found a listing for the birth of Agnes Jane McMillan on the Victorian BDM indexes, only her siblings (James, Mary, Elizabeth John, Ellen Anne, Ada Louise). Do you have her birth details etc?

Ian

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Down / Re: McCance family - County Down
« on: Monday 01 December 08 23:57 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jim. I'm waiting on the local library to get a copy on interlibrary loan of David Fitzpatrick's book from a nearby library. From a brief description on http://questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=103678698 some of the letters were to William Orr and hence the interest in the headstone.

Ian

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Down / Re: McCance family - County Down
« on: Sunday 30 November 08 23:13 GMT (UK)  »
Jim, I have found the full wording elsewhere  on the net for the headstone for John Boal (1720-86), John McCance (1752-1830) and perhaps his wife Mary (1780-1850) but relationship not clear from wording. Also Mary's son, William McCance (1797-1874), & his wife, Eassy (nee Orr, 1789-1870), & their son Matthew (1827-1852). Haven't fitted them in yet, but a book from the library may help written by David Fitzpatrick, "Oceans of consolation. Personal accounts of Irish migration to Australia ...." which apparently has some letters written by/for my GGGF (John McCance) back to the relies left in Ireland.

Ian

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Norfolk Lookup Requests / Re: 1851 GT YARMOUTH LOOK UP
« on: Saturday 29 November 08 04:30 GMT (UK)  »
Jacqui,

I don't know how far you have progessed since posting, but the '51 census entry is for the family of Richard Lamb who married Mary Fiddes Watson, Mar qtr 1844 (Mutford). Her sister,  Sarah Ladley Blake, was my gg grandmother's (Maria Bond, nee Blake, 1818-1916) sister-in-law.

Ian

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Australia Lookups completed / Re: Australian Electoral Roll
« on: Saturday 29 November 08 01:42 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Trish, they didn't have much to smile about then, being mainly baby factories and having to wear all that clobber. Perhaps she's smiling because it'll be all-over soon. Or perhaps another of her 66+ grandchildren (I'm still counting, but like the UK BDM-indexes, WA's are quite challenging, but no censuses to help) had just arrived, and she's thinking "thank God I'm past all that". The paper reported the cause of her daughter's (Agnes Duggan) death as "exhaustion on her accouchement" and that was after her twelth.

Ian

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Australia Lookups completed / Re: Australian Electoral Roll
« on: Friday 28 November 08 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Trish,

That's the right family listed on the "Marion Moore" although Thomas (13) & Alexander (11) were actually McMillans (from the first marriage of Agnes, 39) and my g grandmother (Agnes Ann Duggan 1852-93) was listed as "Angus (1)". Others in the extended family on the "Marion Moore" passenger list were the older McMillans,  Hamilton (wife & daughter), John & wife, James & Nathaniel. Only Hamilton & John & their families sailed on the "Marion Moore" though. The McCances &  the four younger McMillans sailed later on the "Confiance" which was quarantined at the heads on arrival at Port Phillip. I don't know what happened to gg granny's left arm though and why she fudged her age down and John (1819-1907) fudged his up, perhaps she felt guilty about being a cradle snatcher!

Ian

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Down / Re: McCance family - County Down
« on: Tuesday 25 November 08 19:49 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jim. What a treasure! The first one I looked at was Daniel McLeod's, then Nathaniel McMillan's. Pity the photo for John McCance's didn't include the whole headstone though.

Ian

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Down / Re: McCance family - County Down
« on: Saturday 22 November 08 06:20 GMT (UK)  »
Tigerbelle,

My gg grandparents were John McCance & Agnes McMillan (nee McLeod). He (1819-21/10/1907) was a son of John McCance & Martha Gilmour (married Killinchy 27/3/1813) and is buried with Agnes in his stepsons' grave (for James & Nathaniel McMillan) at Chewton. Agnes (1809-12/10/1896) was a daughter of Daniel McLeod & Agnes McKimm. She first married Nathaniel McMillan (1807-3/10/1843) in 1827 and they had six sons (Hamilton, John, James, Nathaniel, Thomas, Alexander). After Nathaniel was killed (apparently by anti-orange men) she married John McCance and they had three sons (Robert Millan, William Henry Millan, Francis Edward) and two daughters (Martha, Agnes Ann). The whole family migrated to Victoria in late 1852. The two older McMillans and families sailed from Liverpool on the "Marion Moore" and the McCances and youngest McMillans on the "Confiance". If you are interested in more bits on the McCance/McMillans email me at "iandann(-at-)aapt.net.au".  There are quite a number in my file and my grandfather (John Robert Duggan, son of Agnes Ann McCance) had over 80 first cousins, and I'm still counting since I haven't found where Alexander McMillan and family finally settled, probably WA. Incidently, John McMillan (1832-1913) settled  near Deniliquin on "Pine Farm" with wife (Mary Regan) and are buried at Deniliquin, and Thomas McMillan was a drover for "Pine Farm'.  

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