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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Saturday 20 November 10 21:12 GMT (UK)  »
Hi StAber,

It would appear that your Gt. Grandfather Thomas Watts 1855, was a younger brother of my Gt.Grandfather John Watts 1851 - Their parents being Edward 1826 and Rachel Jones 1823.
The other siblings to Thomas and John were Edward 1854. Elizabeth 1858. Margaret 1860. Mary 1864.

I found your Gt.Grandfather Thomas 1855 and his family in the 1901 Census. Living at Castle Farm, St. Georges.

I expect you have this info, but I'll put it in anyway =

Thomas Watts Head b. 1855 Pendoylan  Farmer
Susannah Wife b.  1859 How Mills Glam.
Margaret  Dau.  b. 1880  Welsh St. Donats.
Rachel   Dau.  b.  1882    Welsh St.Donats. Milliner.
Edward  Son  b.  1885    St. Georges.
John   Son  b. 1887         St. Georges.
Norah  Dau  b. 1892       St.Georges.
Fanny  Dau  b. 1893       St.Georges.
Florence  Dau b. 1889    St. Georges.

Also living with the family described as Servant was Charles England b. 1838 from Lopan, Somerset.

Kind regards
Red Kite.



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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Saturday 17 July 10 22:32 BST (UK)  »
A Turtle,
Thank you for your message concerning John Morgan, Ioan Trithyd. I noticed the error some time after my original post, and amended my records accordingly, I am nevertheless grateful to you for pointing this out, as I may not have known.

Should I discover which of the Watts farmed Ty Draw at St. Georges, I will of course let you know.

I believe there were three marriages between the Watts and Morgan families, so therefore I have an interest in the Morgan's.

My Grandfather Thomas Morgan Watts 1882 - 1942 was named after Thomas Morgan 1814 - 1887. Thomas Morgan, and his wife Margaret (nee Watts) had raised my Gt Grandfather John Watts 1851 - 1920 from age ten. I believe they were childless, and John remained with them into adulthood, and eventually took over Thomas Morgan's farm.

With regard to the photographs you mention, I will send you a PM.

Kind regards,
Red Kite,

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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Monday 21 September 09 17:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dragonsheep,

Thank you for the info re the Morgan marriages.

Due to the interaction between the Watts, and Morgan famillies, I have kept a good record of the Morgan's also. The earliest being Christopher Morgan b. 1710, and wife Elizabeth. Their son being Thomas 1735 of Llantrithyd, married to Catherine John.

The John Watts b1830-d.1930 that you mention, I have as married to Sarah Mathews. I believe that John was a Bard, known as Ioan Trithyd or Ioan of Trithyd.

Are you able to confirm the following for me please -
I have Thomas Watts b. 1860 at Trehedyn Pendoylan, a farmer at Plas Llanmihangel?

Also, Edward Watts b. 1825 at Pendoylan, married to Rachel Jones.
Edward was my Gt Gt Grandfather.
Do you happen to know where he farmed? I haven't been able to establish this.

Kind regards
Red Kite


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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Sunday 20 September 09 21:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dragonsheep,
Thank you for confirming the location of Ty Draw, and that my branch did not farm there, but at Ty Uchaf. My Gt Grandfather John Watts 1851, was living with aunt Margaret Morgan, nee Watts, and Thomas Morgan from at least age 10 yrs. He seems to have remained with them until his marriage - This must be the couple you refer to.

My Grandfather Thomas Morgan Watts was named after Thomas Morgan.

There was later a marriage between the Watts and Morgan family.

I have William Watts b. 1870 at Pendoylan, son of David b. 1830 and Charlotte Howe. Would they have been your Gt Grandparents?

My earliest record is of Edward b. 1857 St Donats, married to Margaret c. 1762, but until now knew nothing further.

I have details of other branches of the Watts family, and if there is anything you think I might know, I would of course be pleased to pass this on.

Thank you again for answering my post, I would be very grateful for any info you can pass onto me.

Kind regards
Red Kite.


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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Sunday 20 September 09 16:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi Dragonsheep,
Thank you for your message - I am very interested in the information you have.
Unfortunately, I have to go offline now, but, if I may, I will check my tree, and get back to you later.
Thanks again, it is good to get a response after all this time.

Kind regards,
Red Kite

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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Thursday 16 July 09 14:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Heddwch,
                   I have checked the location of the farm "Ty Draw" - it is as I thought in Llantrithyd. There was a large farm known as "Llantrithyd House, and  Ty Draw was to the west of this. Another farm "Ty Uchaf" was to the east of Llantrithyd House.
                   My family also farmed at the next village of Pendoylan - that farmhouse is now run as a hotel I believe.
                   Is Ty Draw located near to you?

Kind regards
Red Kite


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Glamorganshire / Re: Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Wednesday 15 July 09 23:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Heddwch,
Thank you for your response - I am not sure where Ty Draw the farm is/was.
I had assumed it was in the Llantrithyd, Pentrych area, I could however, be completely wrong about this. ::)
I can get most likely get an answer to this from another contact, and get back to you.
What you tell me sounds very interesting.

Thanks again Heddwch - appreciated

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Glamorganshire / Watts of Pendoylan/Llantrithyd/Ty Draw
« on: Monday 13 July 09 21:12 BST (UK)  »
I would like to hear from anyone researching my Watts ancestry.

My Watts were mostly farmers in Glamorgan. When my mother, Margaret Watts died in 2005, she was the very last of my line of ancestry. As I am not aware of any other living Watts connected to her family, it would be so interesting to hear from anyone so connected.
I have a good record of siblings of my Watts ancestors, but my direct line is as follows -

Thomas Watts 1794 - 1860 Welsh St. Donats m Margaret Thomas 1791 Penllyn

Edward Watts 1825 Farmer Pendoylan m Rachel Jones 1823 Pentrych

John Watts 1851 Farmer Pentrych m Elizabeth Jenkins 1857 Haverfordwest

Thomas Watts 1882 - 1946 Llantrithyd m Ethel Evans

Margaret Watts 1920 - 2005 Gilfach Goch Rhondda

Farms included in this family were at Ty Draw, Duffryn Bach, Pwllysarn, Pendoylan.

I read an old thread from 2007 by a member " Selena by the Sea", in answering another matter, she makes a comment that I find very interesting,and indicates that she may know of my family - I wonder if this lady is still an active member?

I would be delighted to hear from anyone who is interested in the above.

Thank you 

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