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Nottinghamshire / Re: Raworth of Eakring
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 09:30 BST (UK)  »
Hello again,

My index of Nottinghamshire baptisms has one for Thomas RAWORTH son of John & Elizabeth 23rd Nov 1777 at Eakring St Andrew. As John RAWORTH is described as "clerk" I have also looked at the CCed web site Clergy of the Church of England Database.  It doesn't list a John RAWORTH as Rector at Eakring but there is one that dies at Bilsthorpe in 1715, he apparently married Elizabeth MOMPESSON.  William MOMPESSON (the one who was at Eyam) was the incumbent at Eakring around this time. 

Although the indexers are very careful you will need to check the baptism in the parish register.  The Clergy database cna be found at http://theclergydatabase.org.uk/

Good hunting,

Janeada

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Raworth of Eakring
« on: Sunday 16 September 18 09:01 BST (UK)  »
Good Morning Larkspur,

I have a copy of Phillimore's Abstracts of Marriage Licences and have just had a look for you. Thomas RAWORTH and Elizabeth THOMPSON did indeed get married by license. The entry in Phillimore is disappointingly short and uninformative.   

1729, Sept 22  Thomas RAWORTH of Eakring, husb., 22, and Elizabeth THOMPSON,spr., 25, at St. Nicholas.

Sorry not to be able to be more helpful.

Janeada
 

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Upton - Southwell mill
« on: Saturday 15 September 18 19:59 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I've managed to find a photo of the Upton Mill roundhouse on line. It is on the Geograph web site at https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/473855 I'm afraid the roundhouse is all that is left of the mill.  I will do a bit of digging in the local library to see if any local historians have published anything about Upton village and its mill. Local directories might also reveal something of its history.  All the on-line sources seem to quote the entry from the 1853 Directory for Nottinghamshire but I feel sure it must have been mentioned in other editions/years.

Regards,

Janeada

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Upton - Southwell mill
« on: Saturday 15 September 18 17:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello again,

If the link works you might find this web site interesting. 
http://members.bex.net/jtcullen515/Upton.htm

Janeada

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Upton - Southwell mill
« on: Saturday 15 September 18 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

The mill in the picture (in the post above) is at Southwell about 2 miles from Upton. It belonged to the Caudwell family from 1851 until it ceased operation in the mid-twentieth century.  It is now converted into flats and apartments.

The river Greet which flows from just to the north west of the village of Kirklington (Nottinghamshire) down to join the River Trent at Fiskerton was the motive power for several mills. The first mill on the river was at Kirklington, then Caudwell's Mill at  Southwell, after that a mill at Upton and one at Rolleston with the final mill being at Fiskerton within sight of the Trent. The mill at Upton was on the southern edge of the village.  Off the top of my head I can't tell you much about the Mill at Upton but I can probably find more information locally.

Regards,

Janeada

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England / Re: Walter Thomas HURREN & Minnie LYNAM
« on: Friday 15 May 15 17:32 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for the link CB53 I didn't know about that Manx web site as I haven't been actively looking at my mother's side of my family for quite a while now.

Janeada

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« on: Monday 05 January 15 11:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Tim,

Hope you had a good Christmas.  I am sorry to have kept you waiting so long but the holidays rather got in the way.  However I can tell you that the Warsop register entry 25 Nov 1792 is for Mary wife of Thomas Pitchfork of Market Warsop.  This makes it probable that she was Thomas’ first wife Mary Parsons.  As such she could have been the mother of Elizabeth christened 7 Feb 1790 assuming that the incumbent made a mistake and wrote “Anne” instead of “Mary” for the mother’s name which I am rapidly coming to the conclusion is the most likely scenario.  I am as certain as I can be that there was no other marriage between a Thomas Pitchfork and Anne at that time in Nottinghamshire. Certainly the Thomas who later married Mary Chauntry couldn’t have remarried before Elizabeth was born if he was still married to Mary Parsons. . 

Whilst I was at the library I had a look at the register entry for the marriage of John Hatfield and Elizabeth Pitchfork at Mansfield, 1 Jan 1811.  Did you know that one of the witnesses was Mary Pitchfork?  I presume she would have been a relative of Elizabeth’s.  There are only four ladies named Mary Pitchfork that I know of.  The first two we can dismiss; Mary wife of William Pitchfork and Mary the wife of Peter Pitchfork both of whom had died before 1811. The third was Mary daughter of Thomas & Mary Pitchfork nee Parsons. IF Mary and Elizabeth were sisters it would be quite likely that the one would stand witness at the other’s wedding.  The fourth is  Mary Chauntry the second wife of Thomas Pitchfork. If Thomas was Elizabeth’s father then as his wife Mary would have acted as mother to Elizabeth and if they got on well together they could have been very close to one another.

As I think I told you the Archive at Nottingham is currently closed for refurbishments but when it opens I will have a look at the BTs for Warsop to see if there are any differences between those entries and the ones in the parish register. 

Regards,

Janeada


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Nottinghamshire / Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« on: Monday 01 December 14 09:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again,

Something I forgot in my pm yesterday.  I have a photocopy of the marriage bond which states that Thomas Pitchfork was a widower upwards of 21 years and gives Mary Chauntry's age as upwards of 17 years.  Elsewhere it states that Thomas was a blacksmith; his bondsman was Richard Chauntry of Halam, farmer; (his father-in-law to-be). So I think that the Thomas born to Peter & Mary Pitchfork (bap.1763) is the most likely man to be young Mary's bridegroom.  The age gap is quite large but would be even more, around 20 years, if it were Thomas son of William & Mary (bap.1756). Whoever he was Thomas had definitely been married before so it looks like the marriage to Mary Parsons would be his first marriage. Someone named Samuel Pitchfork was one of the witnesses to that marriage probably Thomas' brother.

As you say to be as near absolutely sure as possible it would be necessary to trace the life events of Thomas (1756) but so far I have failed in that regard and not without the want of trying.

The burial at Warsop of Mary Pitchfork in 1792 I will recheck as my notes have her as the "wife of Thomas Pitchfork" and I want to be sure whether I am mistaken or if the on-line version is a mis-transcription.

Janeada

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Elizabeth Pitchfork born approximately 1790.
« on: Sunday 30 November 14 15:16 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Tim,

Alexander emailed me to say you have this thread on Rootschat.  Thomas Pitchfork and Mary Chauntry are my 4x gt. grandparents. I have been researching the Pitchfork family on and off since 1988. Whilst I can't hold out much information about Elizabeth baptised 1793 and her parentage I can tell you about the family in general.

Thomas Pitchfork was, I believe, the son of Peter Pitchfork and his wife Mary Hees who married at Warsop in 1756 but as you have noted there is another family from Soulkholm with a son named Thomas.  William and Mary Pitchfork (I don't have a marriage for them); their descendants go into the area around Grindley-on-the-Hill, Nottinghamshire and into Lincolnshire near Gainsborough. Each family also have a daughter named Ann but that is a complication we don't have to consider right now.

I will send you family group sheets for Thomas and his two wives Mary Parsons and Mary Chauntry via the PM link when I can work out how to use it - haven't been on this site for a long while. As soon as I can I will have another look at the parish registers relevant to the family to see if I can find anything further.

Best wishes,

Janeada

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