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The Common Room / Re: Jewish marriages in private homes in the 1870s?
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 17:13 GMT (UK)  »
My thanks to  Justin and Jebber for your  comments, I think I have a better understanding now of the choice of location  and its relative significance. Jebber's link also provided me with several new resources for research :)

Thanks again

Roger

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Warwickshire / Re: Bedford House on Highfield Road, King’s Norton?
« on: Saturday 27 November 21 17:09 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for this latest. Kathryn, it was good to see the map confirm the  exact location.  I took a walk around  the  area and the house is demolished and replaced with a modern building. Shaun and  Kay thanks too for  the  link to Maurice's  father in law  and  the added confirmation. I think this wraps up this query for me. My thanks  to  all.

Roger

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The Common Room / Jewish marriages in private homes in the 1870s?
« on: Friday 26 November 21 12:41 GMT (UK)  »
I have been looking  at  a Jewish marriage in 1873. Bloomah Frankel was married on 15 January 1873, the  ceremony officiated over by Moses Berlyn (1843-1914), the Secretary of the Birmingham Hebrew Congregation, at Bedford House on Highfield Road, Edgbaston, King’s Norton, Birmingham. Looking through the register, most Jewish marriages were conducted in the local Synagogue in Birmingham, but a fair  number were conducted in private homes, as in  this case. Can anybody clarify why  or what the significance is of having  the marriage in  one place or the other?

Thanks

Roger

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Warwickshire / Re: Bedford House on Highfield Road, King’s Norton?
« on: Friday 26 November 21 12:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Maddy, Ruskie and Kay for your helpful contributions to this puzzle. I think Kay is probably right with the suggestion that Bedford House in  Maurice Myers home  at 5  Highfield Road. Now finding him on the census 1851 through to 1881, I see no mention of 'Bedford House' and no mention of  it in the Street Directories either, but  the  first map confirms its rough  location.

Roger

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Warwickshire / Bedford House on Highfield Road, King’s Norton?
« on: Friday 26 November 21 02:22 GMT (UK)  »
I have a marriage certificate for Bloomah Frankel from January 1873, which notes she was married at Bedford House on Highfield Road, King’s Norton, Birmingham. I'd like to find out more about Bedford House, who lived there, etc, but am having trouble finding Highfield Road on the 1871 English census. It wasn't either of the parties to the marriage or the witnesses apparently. Can anyone help? Thanks.

Roger

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Lancashire / Re: Jewish Cemetery, Queen's Road, Miles Platting
« on: Monday 22 November 21 14:52 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for this very helpful reply and it (rather  sadly) helps to  solve the mystery. The cemetery stones are now gone, with just a marker to note its previous above ground existence. See here: https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Manchester/ConsterdineRdJewishBurialGround

It looks like any  stones were removed and to the best of my knowledge any  inscriptions on  them were unrecorded.   :(

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Lancashire / Jewish Cemetery, Queen's Road, Miles Platting
« on: Monday 22 November 21 02:15 GMT (UK)  »
There was a Jewish Cemetery on Queen's Road, Miles Platting, Manchester, that I have been trying to track down. Can anybody clarify if this still exists and give me a precise location? Or if it has  been 'redeveloped', when this happened and were the stones recorded? Thanks

Roger

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Wexford / Re: Maritime Connections
« on: Tuesday 15 July 14 01:21 BST (UK)  »
Shellback, that would be great! i look forward to what you find.

Thanks again.

Roger

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Wexford / Re: Maritime Connections
« on: Monday 05 May 14 10:05 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the reply Shellback. I'd be delighted if it was the same man. The 1911 census suggests there were 3 Thomas Murphys living on the street, sailors all, though I would imagine only one was a lifesaver.

'My' Thomas Murphy was awarded a Sea Gallantry Medal for his actions while serving as Mate of the Ocean Maid on 6 March 1908. The Ocean Maid, a two masted 100 ton schooner which had been built in 1861 in Fraserburgh and was owned by Patrick Byrne of Wexford, was carrying coal from Newport, Monmouthshire to Wexford. It had been at anchor in Rosslare Bay when a force 10 north-westerly gale resulted in it becoming stranded in the harbour on the west side of the pier. Coastguards from the Coastguard Station at Ballygeary, under Chief Officer Mulligan, brought out the rocket apparatus, the first rocket successfully trailing a line to the ship. Three of the crew, including Thomas Murphy, were thus safely landed in a breeches buoy. The Master, Thomas Kehoe, one of Wexford’s longest serving captains, was a heavy man of 67 and, having seen his crew ashore, put himself with some difficulty into the breeches buoy. When about 20 yards from the wreck he fell out of the buoy into the sea and was unable to grab the whip cord and sank beneath the water. Thomas Murphy and Coastguards Smith and Lennard rushed into the surf and at great risk brought him ashore. Although artificial respiration was attempted for two hours, Captain Kehoe failed to revive.

He then got another medal from Lloyds in 1917 for saving several people when his ship was sunk by a mine.

Any further info would be great.

Roger

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