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Cheshire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: St Peter's Prestbury - marriage lookup
« on: Wednesday 30 December 09 00:43 GMT (UK)  »
thank you very much indeed Cancan.

I appreciate your efforts.

Thanks a lot and happy new year to you.

Steve Shaw
Perth
West Australia.

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thank you Jo for looking that up for me.  very much appreciated.

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HI jo1962,

just following your instructions on look up offers to make requests here.

wondering if you could look up a James Shaw as a possible macclesfield workhouse death.  James was in that workhouse in 1841 (from the census).  In 1841 he is registered there as being 64 yrs old.

that's about all I have.

thanks very much

Steve Shaw
Perth Australia

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Hi, hoping someone might be able to have a look through the registers of St Peter's in Prestbury, Macclesfield.  I'm looking for any further details on the marriage of:

Samuel Shaw, stonemason, of Macclesfield to Sarah Mottershead, spinster, of Macclesfiled married on 1/10/1820 at Prestbury.

thanks in advance

Steve Shaw
Perth
Australia.

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Hi there Su,

thanks for the tip about Ann Mottershead.  i haven't had an opportunity to follow this through yet but will do so soon.  Thanks also for the update on the 2 deaths.  Re: your query on what happened to Sarah and James, it's been awhile since i looked at the 1851 but from memory I couldn't find either of them, or at least pin down people who might match.  I have assumed that James may have died before 1851.  I should have a go at tracking that through Cheshire BMD.  Sarah also seems to disappear but that might be due to a re-marriage because some info i received from parkhurst records seems to indicate that sometime between 1844 and 1847, Nathaniel's mother's name is said to be Sarah Hodgkinson.  Again I've never been able to follow that through.  Sarah definitiely did not follow Nathaniel out to Australia.

Thanks for all your help.  It might get boring hearing thanks all the time but as I;ve said before it is really very hard to track family from Australia.

kind reards

Steve S.

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Cheshire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Shaw - brick wall - advice and look up
« on: Thursday 23 July 09 07:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi Su,

thanks a million for the research you've done for me.

The marriage of Samuel and Sarah in Macclesfield is very interesting as are the 2 Samuel deaths.  Can you advise if there is other info re: the marriage?   The death info appears to be from a deaths index, can you advise how I can go about getting a look at the actual certificates etc. or do I need to take a punt and pay for both certificates.

Your help is much appreciated at this end I can tell you.

No need to follow through on my Nathaniel.  He was transported to W.A. in 1847, eventually married here and never returned to England.

kind regards

Steve Shaw
Perth, Australia.

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Cheshire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Shaw - brick wall - advice and look up
« on: Wednesday 22 July 09 11:00 BST (UK)  »
Dear Trish, thanks so much for what you've done already. 

The #14 is the clue re: the family grouping at Macclesfield.  I've done a lot of research into all of that and it turns out that enumerators would mark off family members this way, particularly as it was not uncommon for entire families to wind up in a union poorhouse.  Samuel being missing is a bit interesting I think.

Re: the Shaws of Mottram in Longdendale, I had spent a lot of time researching that area.  There is a whole mob of them up that way that "travel" through the census' from 1841 through to 1901.  I have tracked this Samuel and Sarah and from memory they are together in 1841 and in Mottram as well as in subsequent census', with no mention of a Nathaniel in the family. 

Just so you know, my Nathaniel was sent to Parkhurst Prison in 1844 (13) and later transported to Western Australia in 1847 (16).

The Samuel born in Sandbach you've unearthed might be interesting.  mainly because of Nathaniel's 1844 court transcription that notes he was "...recently of Sandbach...".  Perhaps after macclesfield they may have returned back to home turf.

thank you again for looking this up for me.

kind regards

Steve S.
Perth Australia.

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Hi Cheshire,

I'm having quite a struggle breaking through this very solid brick wall.  Being in Australia is also making it very difficult.  I'll do my best to keep this as brief as possible.  I'm really very sorry if this post is way outside normal bounds re: length.  I'm hoping someone might be able to assist me.  I have an ancestor James Shaw b 1778 and he is identified in the 1841 census as an inmate of the Macclesfield Union Workshouse, along with his D-in-Law Sarah Shaw (41) and G-son Nathaniel (10).  James had a son Samuel, Nathaniel's Dad and this is where the brick wall begins.  I've not been able to locate anything for a Samuel Shaw that seems to match with Sarah and Nathaniel.  Using the Cheshire P.R.Dbase I've located a possible James married to a Sarah Dutton in 1806 at Audlem and have assumed that as this is the closet match I am able to find, they then had a son Samuel perhaps around that time or a bit later.  Samuel also married a Sarah (or may not have married).  Her surname is not known although I have info via Parkhurst Prison records that as Nathaniel's mother her surname is recorded as Hodgkinson, which means she either remaried sometime between1841 - 1847, or reverted to a maiden name.  I haven't really been able to track that or for that matter confirm the Parkhurst info, it came through to me via other sources.  So...Nathaniel's Dad Samuel is the main problem at this stage.  I just can't seem to find a close match anywhere including through an Ancestry membership.  Can anyone help with advice or even a look up to set me in some direction.

Any help or advice will greatly appreciated.

Steve Shaw
Perth
Western Australia. 

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