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Thanks JohnDoe

My matches to George Marlin from a paper trail and dna matching suggest that my connection goes at least as far back as George and even further back. George and his ancestors come from Devon in the south of England, while Elizabeth's mother Eleanor Jobling comes from Northumberland in the north. George came free to Australia in 1837 while Eleanor came as a convict in 1832. It is possible though most unlikely that there is an English connection between the two families. There is no apparent link on the family trees of my Marlin dna matches to Elizabeth Armstrong (1839). I have quite a few links to other Marlin family members but because of the intermarriage of Marlin s to Elizabeth's siblings I can't be sure of the source of our dna connections.

On my side I am sure the link is from my grandmother (Elizabeth's granddaughter) as one of my close dna links a half first cousin once removed, who only shares my grandmother (his great grandmother) but has a different grandfather (his great grandfather), has a dna match to the Marlin Family. As previously mentioned I also have dna links to descendants of Elizabeth who do not have the same male connection as myself, who also have links to the Marlin family.

I have checked and rechecked my line to Elizabeth to see if there could be any Marlin connection, I have been able to establish dna links to both sides of my line back to Elizabeth. So I conclude that the connection can only be through the father of Elizabeth ie George Marlin

Due to the insistence of some cousins who do not believe this is possible I have put this to the forum in case I have missed or overlooked some fact.

Thanks
BuckyB

Hi All
I am trying to link a George Marlin (1807) as my third great grandfather by DNA matching.

I have DNA matches to at least two of George's descendants, one through his son and another through his daughter. I cannot link either of these two matches to any of my ancestors. I suspect that my second great grandmother Elizabeth (1839) could be George's daughter, though some family members won't have a bar of this.

Elizabeth's line is quite complicated, however I will try to make some sense of it:
1. I have established beyond reasonable doubt that my relationship to Elizabeth is through my
    paternal grandmother Mary (Elizabeth's granddaughter)
2.My half 1c1r also has a DNA match to one and most likely both of the two of George's children
   mentioned above.
3.At least one other descendant of Elizabeth through her husband James Russell (no direct
   relationship to me) has DNA connections to one or more of George's children.

Given that I have no paper trail to George and that my cousin through my grandmother also has a DNA match to George's decendants without a paper trail. As well other descendants of Elizabeth, who do not share the same second great grandfather as me, have DNA matches but no paper trails.

Do you think that it is reasonable to assume that George is the father of Elizabeth?

I appreciate that this could be quite difficult to understand as it was hard to write in a meaningful way. Therefore I am happy to provide any further information and explanations that maybe required. There are a few other complications however I hope this is enough to get the ball rolling.

Rod

Many thanks for the inputs. I didn't think to search for the property on Trove. Thanks Jamar.

Lady Di the lease of the property is interesting, I wonder if the sale of Sept 1834 fell through.

As pointed out by Judith,  Morisset was on sick leave from the Army in Sydney, evidently he then purchased the property and moved to Bathurst.

My reason for the inquiry is that I have been trying to establish the movements of William Armstrong a convict arriving in 1835 on the ship "Hero'. He was firstly assigned to William Darke, Surveyor and then to James Morissett, it is the changeover from Darke to Morisset that interests me.

Once again thank you all for your help.

Rod

Thanks Em
Rod

Many thanks JM, you have been a great help and I think I now have a better understanding of the situation.

The series of entries on 19th November is very intriguing, could be that both surveyors Labatt and Darke worked together and were looking for workers. As you pointed out the convicts did not necessarily have to apply for the TOL.  Labatt and Darke may have checked through their ex workers and endeavoured to free them for employment. Pure speculation of course but I guess that's another story.

I agree with you on Cecilia, I'm sure William was not her biological father but I am sure that he did in fact raise her until his death in 1849.

Once again thanks for your help and I will leave this post open as someone might be able to add something down the track.

Rod