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Lancashire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Sir Stanley Bell, Wigan or nearby
« on: Monday 02 November 09 15:22 GMT (UK)  »
Mrs. Fenton, you are very kind.  Your response is a big help  :)

I really do appreciate your recollections!  It is fascinating to think that you remember riding in the car when a little girl.  I have a daughter that age now.  I wonder what her memories will be!  In fact, yesterday was her 7th birthday, we rode in the car to a state park to watch the annual bison roundup and tour an historical ranch in the Great Salt Lake area.

For the query to Rolls-Royce; The car is a 1957 model year Silver Cloud (later called the Silver Cloud I series); the chasis number is SED.69; the body number is SC.2673 'S' type Saloon; "Customer, Loxhams Garages ltd. for, Sir Stanley Bell SF/SE 7.6.57"  Originally Midnight Blue, the car was repainted marron over silver sometime in the '70s I believe.  This guess is because the paint used was a laquer, not available in the states since the early '80s.



May I presume to ask a series of questions?
What specific details of memory do you have, do you remember what year you rode in the car? Perhaps it was a drive in the country or was the occassion a trip to the city...with whom did you drive...accompanied by whom? ...

I wonder, would mind too terribly much if I presumed to ask for a copy of a photo with your grandfather and grandmother together?  At Euxton House perhaps? Your grandfather with his business associates?  Any such photo would be greatly appreciated.  The biography/history I'm knitting together would be supported greatly with such photos.  Scanned and e-mailed would be fine of course (as large as possible to render good detail for display with the car.)

You mention the chauffer, Barlow.  I presume his family may still be about?  Is it possible to track them? Perhaps a photo could be sourced there?  Advice of any way to contact the family would be extremely helpful.  Did Barlow serve your grandmother and mother as well?

When did your Grandmother pass away?  Soon after Sir Stanley?  I presume also that your mother has passed away as well?  Answers to these questions would help me to patch together a time table of the change in ownership.  Since you recall that your mom was able to use the car for a gala event, do you remember the year?  If your mom or dad saw to the sale of the car, it would help me track one step farther.  Would you perhaps have siblings or cousins that would remember the odd detail?

Are there records, a certificate of title or other odd document lying about, that could help track the sale of the car or other assets?  Did Astley Industrial Trust handle the sale/transfer to a new owner or perhaps your grandfather's/grandmother's/mother's solicitor? Please believe me no detail is too small!

Whatever happened to Astley Industrial Trust?

Regards,
Rich Fewkes

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Lancashire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Sir Stanley Bell, Wigan or nearby
« on: Sunday 01 November 09 18:13 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Sarah,

My apologies for the familiarity, we haven't been properly introduced.  Indeed, I don't even know your surname.   This forum has led me to you in search of information regarding Col. Sir Stanley Bell.

I am a simple man of Utah, U.S.A.  I became the owner of a 1957 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud last year;  once ordered for your grandfather, delivered in June of 1957 and appears to have been associated with him while he owned Euxton Hall and was chairman of Astley Industrial Trust.  The car is in poor condition now, but I am confident that I will be able to return it to its former glory over the next few years. 

The information I have for Sir Stanley is limited to what I have discovered here from your posts.  Web resources are limited; I was hoping that you would be able to help.  I would like his biography, a photo of he and his family with the car or any other photo of the car back in the day.  Would you be able to help in this regard?  The history of the car is a fascinating subject, think of it like the history of the Spitfire to some.  I am a bit of an anglophile and am very appreciative of our joint history and the ties we hold as a culture.

Would there be any contacts or artifacts for/from the Astley Industrial Trust that would know what happened to the car after your Grandfather passed away in 1972?  I presume that the company or your family had possession, then it became available for export to the U.S.A.  The history of the car between 1970 and 1990 are a loss to me.  I'm unable to a photo of the car, due to the limitations of this forum.  Back in your grandfather's day the car was midnight blue, rather than the silver and maroon of today.  According to The Rolls-Royce Foundation records, the car was delivered to Loxham Garages, Lancs.  I haven't been able to confirm. 

If you are amenable, would we be able to exchange e-mail addresses?  I anticipate a fruitful correspondence.

Respectfully,
Rich

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