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Travelling People / Re: Paltons Park Romany Experience & Museum
« on: Monday 21 November 22 01:35 GMT (UK) »
Any idea where the caravans went please?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Friday 17 September 21 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hi DeeZeeBee,
So yes, please get a Gedmatch number, it is the only way you will find out who you match, and who you don't. Sadly, it cannot be done by names alone, because names change down the years.
A known Romany change, for example, is from Yelden to Hilden. You cannot build a family tree only from names, you need DNA as well.
I'm new to this thread and just started researching the branch of my tree which myself and my siblings were led to believe we had Romany ancestors in.
I see that there were Finch (Finca) 'gypsies passing through' in 1542 and wondered if they harked from Scotland?! I also wondered if it is know where Margaret Finch came from originally and if that was her maiden name or a married name?!
So yes, please get a Gedmatch number, it is the only way you will find out who you match, and who you don't. Sadly, it cannot be done by names alone, because names change down the years.
A known Romany change, for example, is from Yelden to Hilden. You cannot build a family tree only from names, you need DNA as well.
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Travelling People / Re: Romany DNA - what would you expect to see?
« on: Tuesday 07 September 21 16:47 BST (UK) »I'm new to this thread and just started researching the branch of my tree which myself and my siblings were led to believe we had Romany ancestors in. The names I'm looking at initially are: FINCH (Suffolk then Southwark) PETERS & MINNS in Southwark. Occupations include, Agricultural labourer, Horse Dealer, Costermonger, Hawker of vegetables, general dealer, greengrocer...
I see that there were Finch (Finca) 'gypsies passing through' in 1542 and wondered if they harked from Scotland?! I also wondered if it is know where Margaret Finch came from originally and if that was her maiden name or a married name?!
Myself and two siblings had the DNA test and my sister is 37% Scottish compared to me 12% and my bro just 8% ...
DNA - we have all got differing results: England & Northwestern Europe, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Germanic Europe, Norway & Sweden through ancestry.com
Hi DeeZeeBee,
Did you get a Gedmatch number please? I come from Norwood, where Margaret Finch lived. I may be related to the Powell family who are mentioned together with the Finches; the Southwark place name comes up again & again.
Finch is one of the old Romany names, no-one is quite sure where it originated; there was a Faa family in Scotland who were Travellers. I myself have 9% Scottish DNA according to Ancestry.
KR
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Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Wednesday 05 May 21 01:43 BST (UK) »
try not to give out the full details of people
Sorry Michael, I do not understand - what full details have been given about anyone on this forum? First and second names do not constitute 'full details' since thousands if not millions of people share such names.
Full details would be information like private addresses - postal or email - and such details I would never give out on a public forum. I'm sure you'd feel the same way about this too.
You have been invited by me to private message, you have elected to remain on public forum, on this topic - that is your choice, & I respect it.
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Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Monday 03 May 21 21:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Michael,
What is the name of Deniece's Tree on Ancestry please? I'd quite like to see it.
Deniece, & or her tree manager, might also have Ancestry user-names which would help me identify the tree. Do you have these?
If you'd rather not post such information on the forum, by all means 'private-message' them to me, & then we can properly compare notes
With kind regards.
What is the name of Deniece's Tree on Ancestry please? I'd quite like to see it.
Deniece, & or her tree manager, might also have Ancestry user-names which would help me identify the tree. Do you have these?
If you'd rather not post such information on the forum, by all means 'private-message' them to me, & then we can properly compare notes
With kind regards.
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Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Monday 03 May 21 17:33 BST (UK) »
Also please, where is Deniece's profile or the tree which belongs to her, I'd love to see it.
Many thanks.
Many thanks.
on Denieces profile that she lets me see she states this
Direct ancestors with the surname Baillie
From DENIECE ….. tree ...
michael
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Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Monday 03 May 21 17:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Michael,
Where is this Lesley tree please?
Is there a link to it - or the name of the site where it can be found?
'Big Jack' is Jack Pearce?
My paper-trail cousin in NZ has matches to Jack Pearce, my cousin is a FRY, I don't know how he matches Jim though - the Frys have Kent UK ancestry.
Where is this Lesley tree please?
Is there a link to it - or the name of the site where it can be found?
I just wanted to show you this dna match to me that contains a Cooper, she herself comes out of the Lowthers plus i share four dna matches with this match named Lesley, they are two Boswell males with the same Christain name but i can see they are different people, plus Big Jack from America who as the champions of ancestry, and finally a Female whose Granparents are Smiths and Lees on one side...
'Big Jack' is Jack Pearce?
My paper-trail cousin in NZ has matches to Jack Pearce, my cousin is a FRY, I don't know how he matches Jim though - the Frys have Kent UK ancestry.
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Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Monday 03 May 21 13:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks Michael,
These are predominantly northern family branches. I have a match to Lancashire Boswells and West Bromwich Romany Smiths, but that's probably because they had relatives in Kent - Chatham area seems to have been very popular with Traveller folk in the 19th century and earlier.
Do you have a Gedmatch number please, to see if we are related at all - even distantly?
Best regards.
These are predominantly northern family branches. I have a match to Lancashire Boswells and West Bromwich Romany Smiths, but that's probably because they had relatives in Kent - Chatham area seems to have been very popular with Traveller folk in the 19th century and earlier.
Do you have a Gedmatch number please, to see if we are related at all - even distantly?
Best regards.
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Travelling People / Re: Wilsher blood line, Nottingham, Joseph Wilsher
« on: Sunday 02 May 21 20:05 BST (UK) »on Denieces profile that she lets me see she states this
Direct ancestors with the surname Baillie
From DENIECE ….. tree:
Agnes Baillie
1803–1879
I lightly DNA-match a Fiona Glass who has this Baillie in her Ancestry tree:-
Agnes Baillie
B: Feb 1801 Temple, Midlothian
D: 05 Dec 1874 Bothwick, Midlothian, Scotland