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South Africa / Cecil Howard Beaumont-Thom
« on: Sunday 28 August 16 07:40 BST (UK)  »
Hi all
I have been researching my wife's S.A ancestors for a number of years. Her great uncle CECIL HOWARD BEAUMONT THOMAS has always been a bit of a puzzle for me as I could find little information regarding him.

I only knew that he was the son of John and Sophia MarianThomas,  that he was born in Nov 1888 at Longlands River diggings and that he had three male siblings (I have lots of info regarding these three).

However I recently found a couple of interesting documents.

The first is a death report of the death of SUSAN BEAUMONT-THOMAS (nee GOOZEN). It shows that she died of eclampsia on 23rd July 1924 during or shortly after childbirth. The certificate shows that she was 20 years old and her death was reported and signed by C. H. Beaumont-Thomas.

The second document is the baptism register for WILLIAM RICHMOND HOWARD BEAUMONT-THOMAS dated 10th Oct 1924 it shows his date of birth as 22nd July (the day before Susan died). The child died on 16th Oct 1924. I also found the death report which was signed by his father C H Beaumont-Thomas.

A few years ago on the now defunct Ancestry24 site I found reference to the will and estate of
Alan Emmanuel Howard Beaumont-Thomas. It was reference to his estate and will from the Cape Town Deceased Estates Index 2271/1968Will. It shows he died 20 March 1968. He Married ANNE MARGARET MICHAUX 11th Mar 1934. The marriage register shows that he was aged 20 so he would have been born in 1919.  The two witnesses were WJ and L Moyse (I have no idea who they were) I always assumed that he was a son of Cecil H B-T as there is no mention of him in the Wills of Cecil's three siblings.

I am seeking any further information or guidance regarding Cecil.
1.  Details of his marriage to Susan.
2.  Is Alan is his son, who was his mother (Susan would only have been 15 if it were her).
3.  Was Cecil married more than once.
4.  Are there any more children.

As I live in Malaysia, all of my research has to be done online, mostly through Ancestry.com and Family search so any information or guidance towards any other sources would be greatly appreciated.

Kind regards
Keith



BIRTH 1919 • Cape Town, Western Cape, South Africa
DEATH 20 MAR 1968
1st cousin 1x removed


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Worcestershire / Re: John Fowler and Mary Thomas marriage
« on: Wednesday 24 August 16 11:51 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Phil, I've tried looking in Parish registers but to no avail. The info that i'm really interested in his Mary's parents name but all info will be helpfull.

Thanks again
Keith

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Worcestershire / John Fowler and Mary Thomas marriage
« on: Wednesday 24 August 16 10:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

I have just found a reference to the marriage of John Fowler and Mary Thomas.

Marriage date 11 Mar 1834
St John Parish, Bedwardine, Worcester, England.
FHL Film Number 394852
p. 192#574

Could anyone tell me if it is possible to view this record online please (I live in Malaysia)

Kind regards
Keith


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Warwickshire / Re: Florence Hart
« on: Tuesday 26 May 15 10:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Joseph Lambert found guilty of fraudulent bankruptcy in Warwickshire 25th June 1888, sentenced to five months imprisonment without hard labour.

Regards
Keith

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Warwickshire / Re: Florence Hart
« on: Tuesday 26 May 15 09:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I actually found that this morning. I've created a separate tree for the Lamberts so it is easier to work with.

Also I found a 1918 absent voters list that records a Joseph Lambert living at 105 Holly Road; he is recorded as Soldier 32982 Gnr. 248th Sge. Bty. RGA.

There is also a marriage, maybe, for him on Family search,
Q2 1917
Married Minnie Pratt
Aston
Warwickshire
Vol 6D
page 950

I also forgot to mention that mother in law said that Florence's mother was married twice.

We go on holiday to Krabi in Thailand for a week on Thursday; I definitely feel we are breaking a few walls thanks to the help I have received from you all. I would not have picked up the Lambert connect but for you.

Kind regards
Keith

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Warwickshire / Re: Florence Hart
« on: Monday 25 May 15 09:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I might have had some useful news last night ...fingers crossed.

It is difficult to speak to my M.I.Law on the phone as she is hard of hearing. So we  asked my sister in law if she could ask her mother if she could remember anything about Florence's mother.

Her answer surprised both of us; she couldn't remember her name but she said that she had met her a few times after she got married in 1947.

With that info. in mind I looked for likely deaths in late 40' early 50' and came up with this:-

Mary A Hart birth date abt. 1863
Date of registration June 1951
Age at death 88
Reg. District Birmingham
County Warwickshire
Vol. 9C
Page 398

I think it might be worth investing in a D.C. but I need to review everything first.

Regards
Keith

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Warwickshire / Re: Florence Hart
« on: Sunday 24 May 15 11:18 BST (UK)  »
Yes I think the Lambert connection is looking good.

I have sent for Albert and Louise marriage cert. online and I shall be posting the application for Bertie's will tomorrow.

I have also found the connection between Beatrice May Gosling and Florence/George. The 1911 census records Beatrice at the same address as Florence and George were living at when they married, 15 Bk. of 185 Park Lane, Aston Manor. Interesting as it is it doesn't actually get me any further.

I shall spend the next few days looking at the Lambert connection.

Thanks again
Keith




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Warwickshire / Re: Florence Hart
« on: Saturday 23 May 15 15:17 BST (UK)  »
I cannot rule out the Lambert possibility. To be honest, I've struggled so much with Florence that nothing would surprise me. There are so many possibilities, was Florence a Lambert; were her siblings Lamberts; were the siblings illegitimate, were they all illegitimate ....the list goes on.

I haven't applied for Bertie's will but only because  probate passed everything (£594-18- 6)  to Florence. 

Albert's marriage cert. is my best hope at the moment, if I know his father's name it will obviously be useful but if any of paragraph 1 applies it will get me no further.

I still think that Florence is the key, her birth (maybe Lambert is correct) and where she was during the 1891 & 1911 census records.

Kind regards
Keith

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Warwickshire / Re: Florence Hart
« on: Saturday 23 May 15 09:50 BST (UK)  »
Another piece of info that I seem to have overlooked.

Some notes that my wife took many years ago when she was asking her mother about family history refer to Albert's wife "Loui" and their daughter Renee. I'm not sure whether I did any investigation on it.

I did so this morning and came up with this:-

Albert Hart marriage to Louisa Heath   Q3 1922    Aston, Warwickshire, vol. 6D Page 1221
Irene L Hart born Q1 1924  Birmingham, Warwickshire, vol. 6D Page 556.

Needless to say, I shall send for the marriage cert.

Although I have had some really good hits when sending for wills I have been loath to enquire whether Florence left one as I remember when she died and there wasn't any great wealth. I may have to have a re-think on that one.

I've also had another look at what connection Beatrice (Beatrix) May Gosling had to Florence and her first husband, George F Wooton; I'm afraid I came up with nothing.

Regards
Keith

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