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Delighted to hear from a living family member Evelynne. It was my post which started this and yes I'm a Pentland descendant which probably means we are very, very distantly related. I have been researching this line of my family for some years now and one of my particular interests is the Irish/Scottish connection. I'd be delighted to share any information I have on your line so if you are interested send me a private message and we'll see what can be done.


Regarding the comments on postings, I understand the situation is not at all complicated. Firstly, deceased persons have no privacy rights. Secondly, information in documents in the public arena which includes anything outside the usual closure periods, may be published but copies of original documents are subject to the usual copyright laws. Lastly, gravestones remain the property of the descendants of the person who owned the plot so only they could conceivably have any rights over them, a blanket ban would be unenforceable. Since the information is on display, regardless of where, it is public information which is why there has been no wholesale removal of posts. I hope that puts minds at rest.

Hi Roxanne,

I love the way these boards fall silent for years and then suddenly resume. Between the post to which you responded and now I have done very little research, life has been getting in the way! Without delving too deeply, which I cannot do presently, all I can tell you is that the information about Isaac has no primary source but came from an entry on One Great Family Tree. I have quite a number of such entries for which I make no claim as to accuracy but without access to the original research or evidence that the entry cannot be correct I'm prepared to leave it where it is.

What I will say is that it probably indicates a Canadian Pentland family hitting the usual problem of tracing forebears back to Ireland. There is likely information out there on an Isaac Pentland who died in Canada in 1930 when the claimed age would have been highly unusual. This could indicate the connection is highly fanciful or it could indicate that the family had good evidence of it, I can't tell.

Delighted to see you are still active and completely understand your concern. I proved irrefutably  same years ago that a lady in Wales had incorrectly chosen my great-grandfather as hers but she still clings to the belief, most frustrating.

Ever little piece of information is valuable Mattfrombann, thank you. This indicates there are still Pentlands in the area and John is an old Pentland name in Co Down, who knows he may be a descendant of the early Pentlands in Ireland.

Thank you, I had missed that. There is an Emily Pentland (the two names were often confused) in Rochdale in 1911 but she is a different girl, otherwise, I found no Emily Pendleton or Pentleton in 1901 or 1911 which suggests an early death but I found nothing which fitted. Your find is quite a possible match and only a mother's name would suggest she was unmarried.

A number of family trees have picked on the civil registration of the death of George Pentland in 1871 as a record of the death of Jane Anderson's husband but I wonder whether this may stand re-examination?

There appear to be six children registered to the couple between 1823 and 1835 and a suggestion that there was an seventh in 1840. The births of Lucy (1823), Elizabeth Ann (1826), Jane Elizabeth (1828), Thomas George (1829), Isaac (1831) and Margaret (1835) appear to be proved by entries in the Seagoe records.

I have seen reference to another daughter, Ann born in 1833 which seems to be based on an entry in the 1900 census of South Manchester, Hartford, Connecticut. There is evidence to suggest, however, that the single lady in the census was the widow of another George Pentland.

The youngest, George is claimed to have died on 30th November 1860 at Tartaraghan but I can find no source for this claim.

When Griffiths published the primary valuation of Co. Armagh in 1864 William Warnock was renting a house from Jane Pentland on the land which she rented, along with her own house, from Henry Stanley. He is likely her son in law and lack of his own land suggests he was farming his mother in law's. There being no sign of his father in law it seems probable he had died between his daughter Elizabeth's marriage in 1852 and the valuation. If the death in 1860 is supported by evidence is it not more likely, therefore, to be George Henry rather than an otherwise unknown son?