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Montgomeryshire / Re: Married dead wifes sister.
« on: Monday 21 May 12 21:44 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Do you mind telling me whether they were before or after 1835 and whether the marriages lasted till death or whether anyone took any steps to do anything about the situation.

If you prefer please feel free to send me a private message


Regards

Chris

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Montgomeryshire / Re: Married dead wifes sister.
« on: Monday 21 May 12 20:37 BST (UK)  »
The 1835 Act is perfectly clear. The marriage was void and the parties were committing an offence by marrying within the prohibited degrees.

I have noted that, in practice at least, no one seemed to bother much and I am trying to find a case where some action was taken or children declared illegitimate.

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: THOMSON - Troqueer and New Abbey
« on: Sunday 18 March 12 09:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

You have probably gathered I am connected and have a lot of information though at the NZ end it was given by Lucy2.

Some of it is pretty sensitive and shouldn't go on a public forum so might I suggest that you make the neccessary number of postings and we can send you private messages.

Chris

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: THOMSON - Troqueer and New Abbey
« on: Tuesday 07 December 10 19:44 GMT (UK)  »
Oh no, I will do them, not least because I want the details for John!!

I'm a bit unsure why you can't send me a private communication? Or see mine...

The mother of John Welsh was Jean Thomson 1810-

My cousin thinks she was married to John's father another John Welsh but personally I don't and your information points to them not being married.

Don't know about the name Glen but do know about Grierson. The Griersons were a prominent family in New Abbey. In fact a Grierson is listed as being a prominent New Abbey resident.

Samuel, my gt  gt grandfather was the illegitimate son of John Thomson 1748-1806 of Millhill Farm Troqueer by his servant Janet Dowell or Weel abt 1765-?. That is noted in the register of Samuel's death.

Millhill Farm is miles from anywhere. We went in the summer and if we could communicate properly I could send you a picture. Samuel Thomsons lived at Auchenfaad Cottage again very remote but near Millhill and Catherine and Samuel's children were Christened at Millhill Farm. Samuel worked as a shepherd at Millhill Farm all his life and at his death was noted as the widower of Catherine McCubbin. Samuel and Catherine are buried near to the other Thomsons at New Abbey, in fact next to John Thomson's mother Agnes Lewars.

When Catherine died she was noted by Samuel to be the daughter of unknown father and Isabella unknown but in the 1841 census there is an old lady Isabella Thomson living with the family at Auchenfaad and my cousin and I think she was Catherine's mother.

Catherine is noted on the family grave as Catherine Mcuban. Again I have photos which I could send if we could communicate. Are you on Facebook or Ancestry?

Back to the Griersons. John Thomson father of Samuel in about 1800 married Jane Grierson 1771-1852. They had 3 legitimate children one of whom another John Thomson  inherited the farm. Another lost inheritance! ;D

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: THOMSON - Troqueer and New Abbey
« on: Monday 06 December 10 22:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

Yes, though it looks as though I can't access the original to copy it for you! I will dig it out again and put it on here in the next couple of days.  I had hoped to give you my personal e mail which is in the response but which I'm not allowed to post. Do you know when you can get back to PM?

I would like you think you will reciprocate with your information about John Welsh who was my grandmother's cousin.

Christine

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Kirkcudbrightshire / Re: THOMSON - Troqueer and New Abbey
« on: Sunday 05 December 10 09:35 GMT (UK)  »
Have sent a reply privately to Lucy requesting some information on John Welsh

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Shropshire / Re: Common Edge, Market Drayton
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 23:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi again,

I find it odd that some 13 years after the workhouse system was abolished that the euphemistic address was used.

My grandfather died in Quarry house in 1950 and I know that he also lived there. On the certificate everything is down as Quarry House. It was in fact my father who did the registering, rather than someone from the institution which may explain it.

I have a friend whose grandfather also died there in 1952. In fact he and my grandfather were connected by marriage and would certainly have known each other.  I will ask her what it says on the certificate.

All being in Quarry House at the time you mention would have meant is that your ancestor couldn't afford to be in a private home or hospital, not necessarily that he was destitute.

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Shropshire / Re: Common Edge, Market Drayton
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 18:34 BST (UK)  »
Presumably your heard off SFHS website?  :)

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Shropshire / Re: Common Edge, Market Drayton
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 16:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Sorry to have to say it appears that address was the old Workhouse. It was supposed to be an address to conceal the fact that people had been born or died in the workhouse and was not a real address.
I am a little surprised at the date you mention as my grandfather died in the old workhouse in 1950, by then called Quarry House a National Assistance Institution which many of the old workhouses became after 1930 and his death certificate indicates he was of Quarry House. I am looking into this further.
Quarry House is near Little Drayton though as I was directed to Little Drayton to find grandad's grave and that of his sister.
 :D

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