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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Can anyone read this signature please
« on: Friday 02 October 09 14:17 BST (UK)  »
Hahaha..

I thought I did it right.. here goes another try... please God don't let it take the whole page up...lol
I'm not very good at uploading things..

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Can anyone read this signature please
« on: Friday 02 October 09 13:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

Can anyone read this signature please, they were a witness to the marriage of James Richards & Myra Stillaman 1812..
 

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Could a Bridegroom give put the wrong name for his father
« on: Saturday 19 September 09 21:58 BST (UK)  »
I am Now in a right mess!!!

My Great-grandfathers name was Joseph Bartram Born 1856 Limehouse(I thought, well now I'm not sure)I do have the birth cert..
His Parents as I have been following were Charles Bartram b.Berwick-upon-tweed 1811 (a sail maker) who died before 1861 census, his mother Sarah Easton b. Middlesex 1817  Children. Barbara, Ann,Charles & Joseph.. Joseph is christened in Berwick 1860 5 yrs old.
1861  census, Charles has died! little Charles missing, Barbara & Ann  working in Berwick & Sarah & Joseph are in the workhouse.

by 1871 Barbara has married & Joseph is living with her back in London.

Joseph married Annie m Webb 1877, 1st child Charles, 2nd child Kate Barbara, so on Everything seemed to match up fine. I'm sure I had seen their marriage cert, obviously not, today on Ancestry's new records I found that Joseph has put his father as Joseph (Dec'd)!!!! a Sailor!!! I am in a state of shock & have been searching for any Joseph Bartram's born to Joseph Bartram & can't find one,

Could he have given his fathers name wrong? if I am on the right tree he would only have been 5 or 6 when his father died and his grandfather's name was Joseph, The witnesseson his marriage cert don't help either they are his wife's family.

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Essex / Re: MANSFIELD family in ESSEX
« on: Tuesday 11 March 08 18:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Siobhan,

I don't have any other info, But my great aunt Annie Bartram married a Walter A mansfield in St Pancras 1912 I they had at least 1 child a Walter A mansfield born St Pancras 1913. Any connection to yours

Regards Elaine

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Northumberland / Re: Golden Square church
« on: Tuesday 04 March 08 18:37 GMT (UK)  »
I did say I was asking a daft question..lol
 Thankyou for answering & the marriage record actually confirms it by what he has written all the marriages (6) on this copy
He has confirmed that they were all performed in Berwickshire Scotland
but hasn't on the christenings it just says they were born in Berwick & christened by him
Elaine

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Northumberland / Re: Golden Square church
« on: Tuesday 04 March 08 17:59 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou Stan, Jennifer & Janis,

Well that answers a lot Joseph & Barbara's marriage was performed by John Blackhall as all the others on the page that I have, also all of the christenings were performed by him. They probably were his parishioners
I am going to seem a bit daft here so I apologies, if he entered the marriages into the golden sq records (very kind of him for my sake) wouldn't it be the same as them getting married there..... sorry duhh! I know it sounds daft but I'm having a blond moment.
Elaine

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Northumberland / Re: Golden Square church
« on: Tuesday 04 March 08 15:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Stan,
on the copy of the parish records in the ministers handwritting it is defiantly written as Lamerton, I don't think it's a spelling mistake as there are 6 other peoples entries on the page as well all with the spelling Lamerton, it's probably the same as Lamberton, the minister probably couldn't spell!! or maybe it was just written like that 1802.
having another look at the baptism copies it all the children were born in Berwick and Baptized by him but he doesn't actually say where. maybe he was a travelling minister!
One thing that confuses me is that on the IGI there marriage is down as at Golden sq and the records for this are at Berwick upon Tweed.. I am awaiting copies..but in the mean time found them on bmd registers & couldn't wait
Elaine

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Northumberland / Golden Square church
« on: Tuesday 04 March 08 12:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,
I have just got hold of copies of the parish registers for my ggggrand parents.
marriage & children's Baptism..
On the IGI it gives the date and that they were married or these Baptisms were at the Presbyterian or scotch church Golden Square Berwick upon Tweed, but on the registers it says they were married at Lamerton=Toll=house parish of Mordington, Berwickshire Scotland.
Were these 2 places the same. & me not being very good at the geography being from London & never visiting up there. My Joseph Bartram & Barbara Firguison/Ferguison were both from the Town of Berwick, is the town on the Northumberland side or Scottish side. they must have lived  close to lamerton Toll as all the children were also christened there.
I'm now a little stuck with them. don't know where to look next
regards Elaine

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The Common Room / Re: Training ships
« on: Monday 25 February 08 18:04 GMT (UK)  »
Thankyou for all the info, I have been on to the Berwick upon Tweed archives office to see if they have any info on Joseph, as I am asuming that he was sent to a training ship from their workhouse. :(

As for Robert he would have been 12 years old in 1908 so it is quite possible that the pic is of him & it's also poss that by 1914 he had decided that he didn't like the life on a ship  ::) & when the war started he opted for the army.

I would still like to know if anyone has any Idea what regiment he might have been in in the army photo

Thanks Elaine

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