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The Common Room / Changing identities
« on: Monday 30 July 07 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello

I have a certificate for a marriage in 1859 in Cheshire. Because of a number of questions about the groom’s life before this (and afterwards, at various times) and the lack of any records that match the details on the marriage certificate, I’ve been wondering if he was who he said he was. Does anyone know what sort of checks – if any – were done of a person’s details before they got married in those days? Would it have been possible for a man with a trade to start calling himself a totally different name?

Any views on this would be welcome (although I don't know where my searching would go from here if identity changes were easy).

Thank you

Jojosam

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Devon / Movements from Devon to Ireland
« on: Tuesday 26 June 07 10:18 BST (UK)  »
I have a possible ancestor who was a 'native of Devon' and was a ploughman in Antrim when he was arrested and tried in Carrickfergus in 1825, at age 50-odd. The person we assume was his daughter was tried on the same day and, as the convict indent says she was a native of Antrim, we're assuming her father was in Ireland at least from about 1798 which is when she was born. She was a butter maker.

Does anyone know if there was a strong movement of agricultural workers from Devon to Ireland around that time? Or was this case not very common? Or were there other reasons for a lot of contact between these two areas? These two people are brick walls and I'm hoping that information about the circumstances of the movements might throw up some leads for new places to search.

Or is there a good history book or two (preferably available online, although interlibrary loan might be possible) which would help?

Or should this message be on an Ireland board?

Thanks.

Jojosam

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Hello all

Thought I'd use this thread to add my thanks to the techo people who organise the Rootschat site. I've had no problems navigating it and have urged our IT people to look at it for ideas about  how to improve parts of our intranet here at work .

I really like the wealth of links and information that can be accessed from the home page. That's a real advantage for people with s-l-o-o-o-w dialups - we don't have to go to a pile of different pages to find the link we want.

The search engine is really handy - I do a couple of different surname searches (some with another limiting word) every so often to turn up posts that I've missed on the 'unread posts since last visit' board - another good feature of the site - or that disappear because the connection dies while I'm on the site and I lose the list.  :'(

I know there are more functions that I haven't found or used and one day I will get to them. But at the moment I'm still too eager to read the posts - so thanks also to all of you whose posts make this such a great site.  :)

Jojosam



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What a lovely surprise - I thought I'd sneak a look at the site again (at work) and here's even more information from you. :o  Thank you very much to both of you.  :D

I had found a marriage for a Robert Bailey to Ellen Philpott in 1856 but now this seems to be the wrong one. It also means that the birth I found for Margaret (the daughter) might be wrong.  ???

In about 10 minutes I'll be travelling out of email contact for a couple of days. But as soon as I get back I'll be in touch with a relation who might be able to help me make a story out of all these new facts. I'll be interested to see if there are any stories of Margaret's early life. This would also be the first Scottish connection on any of my family's branches.

I'll also hit BMD and IGI again; and then I'll post what we've found out, hopefully to give you the end of the story (and probably to test our theory :-\).

Thanks again.  :-*

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Excellent! :)  Thank you Joe and Karenlee. Your information throws up some totally new information.

Do you think I'm safe in assuming that Robert's 1871 birthplace info was wrong? Please don't tell me they are more likely to be two different families - although I am wondering where Margaret (my g-g-grandmother) was in 1871. And now I've just realised that the marriage I found can't be right if the two families are the same.

Oh well - another branch with some more puzzling out to do. I think I must have had some of the information wrong.

Jojosam

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Census 1861, 1871 please BAILEY Leeds
« on: Monday 17 July 06 10:02 BST (UK)  »
Hello

I think I'm on the right board. I have a Bailey family in Manchester in the 1881 Census. I'd like to find them in earlier censuses and, as they had a 10 year-old who was born in Leeds, I'm guessing they were in Leeds in the 1871 census. The people are

Robert Bailey (a hatter, born in Newcastle Under Lyne around 1831), 
his wife Ellen (born in London around 1837), and
children Margaret (she should be there but had left home by 1881), Eliza (both born in London), Ellen (born in Leeds). There might have been more older children.

Robert and Ellen were married in 1858 in London.

I'd be really grateful if someone could see if they appear on the 1861 and/or 1871 census please.

thank you.

    

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Thank you Mike and Prue for your swift responses.

I suppose I was expecting the advice that the damage can't be repaired - but I will take on board the advice for storing the photos and hopefully stop any more from going the same way. They were all in

I also want to learn to use the image software that is just sitting on my computer and scanning and restoring my photos is a very good reason. The work on this board gives me something to aspire to.

Thanks again.


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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Photos turning blue or melting
« on: Tuesday 27 June 06 03:26 BST (UK)  »
Hello all

Firstly,  my apologies if these problems have been answered already - my searching ability can't uncover it.

I've noticed that a lot of colour photos taken 30-40 years ago are turning blue - varying shades according to the original colours but a definite blue hue.

I also found some photos on which the image appears to have melted - the original colour is there but in splodges and swirls, rather than the picture.

How do I stop either of these things happening? (I realise that the melting might have something to do with living at 12 degrees latitude but we can't move at the moment) 

Is there any way to reverse the damage?

Thank you.

Jojosam


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Cheshire / Re:KIRKHAM Cheshire Parish Records
« on: Thursday 13 April 06 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Hello Peter (and Kirkham rels and anyone else who might be reading this)  :)

Unfortunately I haven't been able to come up with anything more to shed any light on Isaac/William and his forebears.

At the time of his marriage in September 1859 he was called Isaac Kirkham, was 28 years old and was living in Preston. But he was born in Macclesfield (although we don't know if he grew up there) so when did he move?   :-\

Mulling over the information now available (most of it obtained by Peter), I've realised that we still don't know where Isaac was during the 1851 and 1841 censuses. Those details might give some clues to his background - I've been doing some chasing up on the assumption that the James Kirkham born in Hartington was his father. I'm also more than a little convinced that Isaac, for some reason, was using an alias in the 1861 census.  ???

Are you (or anyone else) able to start tracking that 1841 and 1851 census information please? Or point me in the right direction to get to it myself? Of course Isaac might have been in Preston (or somewhere completely different) then but I suppose there is no reason not to start in Cheshire, and we can assume he was probably a butcher of some sort in 1851 and maybe a scholar or apprentice in 1841.

Hoping you can come through (yet again).

Jojosam 

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