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Hi Colin

Last night I revisited the Smith part of my family tree, and from the research you did on my question above you discovered two possible marriages for John Smith.

The first to Catherine Inglefield 1739 and the second to Mary Moss 1750.

As I recall the sources for the marriages where family search.

I had a quick look and there appeared to be not mention of any parents for any of the spouses.
Would you agree, have I got that right?
As I would like to go back a generation from John Smith, I thought looking at the marriage records may help ie they would give the father of the spouses or they could have acted as a witness.
If I have looked at the correct records and there are no relatives on the records for these two marriages, I may request from the Chehsire Archives a copy of their entries for these weddings from the parish records, hoping that a parent is on their records.
Uness you have any better ideas.

Its a difficult one, she is so young and from relatively far away. John would have been very much older.

Hi Colin

Sorry I do not have find my past.
With respect to ancestry would the baptisms be from the Bishop Transcripts?

Sue

Richard Smith born 1750? +/- 5 buried 1820 Bidston (Confirmed by the Cheshire Parish Project Register Database (CPPRD)) married to Ann/Nancy Linacre 1775 Bidston (Confirmed by the (CPPRD) one witness was a John Smith (confirmed by CPPRD) possibly his father.
 One of Richard`s daughters Betty was baptized 1779 (confirmed by CPRD)  and the names of Richard`s parents were given as John & Mary as additional information, confirmation that his father was John.
However I cannot find a suitable marriage for a John Smith & Mary around a suitable time probably a few years +/- 1750 however I have not been able to find the baptism of Richard Smith or his siblings either.
I am presuming he would have not have  had a trade (he signs the marriage register for his son Richard with a X) however his grand son William Smith born 1783 (confirmed by CPPRD) lists himself as a farmer in the 1841 census, so perhaps John Smith was an agricultural labourer?
There are some entries on family history trees on Ancestry for marriages of John Smith to a Mary, one for instance to a Mary Moss, one tree even has John marrying her twice in his lifetime.
However there is no supporting documentation to prove any of them.
Does anyone have any ideas as to where I could find a suitable marriage for a John Smith & a Mary?

Hi David

I must admit that I have not looked for the siblings of William Smith b 1783 Moreton.
So I have not really followed Betty, however on the CPRP I have found an entry for a Betty Smith daughter of Richard & Ann Smith she is born on the 13th of August 1779 and baptised on 28th of August 1779

with the additional information of her grandparents being Richard (snr) and Mary Smith  there is also reference to  an Ann (DA) and a daniel & Margt Lincacre

so perhaps the above partially explains where the date of 28th of August 1779 comes from and some how a Daniel & Margt Lincacre are connected to the family.