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« on: Tuesday 31 December 13 14:00 GMT (UK) »
I hope this is the right place for this topic.
I live in Australia and I am looking for some answers to questions that I cannot obtain on line. I have received the army records for my 2nd Great Grandfather, John Robbie. His record shows he was No. 484 and attested for the 25th Regiment of Foot at Montrose, Forfar on the 18th February 1826 at the age of 21 years. Before raising other issues in his records, I should advise that on the 28th September 1825 he married in Arbroath, Forfar to Amelia Simpson, and after he joined the army, his son, John Simpson Robbie was born on 21st July 1826 in Arbroath.
His service extended until 7th September 1837, when he was medically discharged after serving four years in the West Indies. However during that time, he deserted twice, spent time in prison (Hard Labour) and various confinements in the military hospitals. Not much army duty it seems.
On 12 July 1827 he deserted until he returned on 26 November 1827.
His records shows he returned and was forgiven on 27th November until the 21st July 1828 when he deserted again until the 26th April 1830. He was tried and sentenced to 6 months imprisonment with hard labour until 8th November 1830. I have a theory as to why he deserted, but cannot confirm it at this stage, however I believe that around the time of the first desertion, his wife may have died as no further information can be found for her and I know that the son was raised by John's mother, found in later census details.
If that was the case, he would have needed to make arrangements for his son's well being and then returned to the army. He received no penalty for this desertion, as it was related only to the second time he deserted. His confinements in the hospitals were related to a heart problem that got worse each time he returned to service.
After returning from the West Indies, he was taken to the military hospital in Limerick in Ireland and was finally discharged there. He received no payments or pension for the 11 years in the army.
I have heard that there are two files in the army records which might explain the reasons behind some of the actions taken, as this one seems to be more about the medical side.
My questions I would like to have answers for are:
How can I find the reason for "Returned & Forgiven" with the first time he deserted, as this seems an unusual result for someone who deserted?
What sort of guidelines would the army have used?
After he was discharged in Ireland, would the army have arranged for his return to his town in Scotland, or just left him to his own devises as he was not entitled to a pension? Considering his heart condition, this would have been cruel.
No record can be found of John's return to his family, and his son moved to Australia after his grandmother died in 1852. John was probably embarrased about having nothing to show for 11 years in the army and drifted around, but don't know whether this was in Ireland or Scotland.
Hope someone with knowledge of how the army worked in that time can assist with some answers.
Regards,
Peter