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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Friday 08 November 13 10:15 GMT (UK)  »
1st Dec. 1893 Drybridge Dundonald   
(signed) Thomas Welsh Carter (bachelor) residence Overmills Age 26
Parents Richard Welsh General Labourer (Deceased) Ann Jane Welsh MS Dunbar
(signed) Isabella Allan Rolley Dairymaid (spinster) Age 23
Parents William Rolley General Labourer Margaret Rolley MS Allan
Witnesses William J. Moore and Margaret Rollie
Drybridge, Dundonald
  Gibbs Registrar

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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Friday 08 November 13 08:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Wivenhoe and all,
We have made a few discoveries, such as William was born in 1894 and his middle name (which we've always thought the initial was J, not a B or an F) is actually James. The family are living in Overmills and Thomas is a carter. Re the birth of Thomas Welsh, we're wondering if he mistakenly thought he was born in Ireland, and later discovered he was illegitimately born to Isabella Welsh in Maybole (we have the cert. showing the birth) as we've found a Richard and Ann Welsh (pob Ireland) on the 1871 census, sans children. Is it possible they took over Isabella's illegitimate child because she was related to them. We can't find any other reference to a Richard and Ann Welsh with Thomas on any census material, they only appear on Thomas's marriage cert. as Richard Welsh and Ann Jane nee Dunbar, and on his death cert. as Richard Montgomery Welsh and Ann Jane nee Dunbar. Any thoughts?

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World War Two / Re: Albert Thomas Pegler - A Chindit in Burma
« on: Friday 08 November 13 03:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Milly,
All good info to look at and evaluate. I'll post if I find anything. flownthenest

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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Thursday 07 November 13 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
Ooops, that should have read, thomas's death in 1913!

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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Thursday 07 November 13 12:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,
Found Thomas Welsh's death in Ayr, 1813, the same year hubby's father was born. He was a dock worker, although no cause of death given. Isabella must have been pregnant at the time. Also his birth (only one that fits the date) to Isabella Welsh (?) Maybole, 1868, illegitimate, with no father named. Can't tie this in with his death cert. which names his father as Richard Montgomery Welsh, and mother Ann Jane, formerly Dunbar. Same named parents as on his marriage cert. Can only find one Isabella Welsh in 1871 working at 238 High St, Ayr, for Andrew Glass and his wife Marion, which is same address at Tam o'shanter inn. Andrew is named as innkeeper, although Tam o' not named. We've come to a dead end now as we can't find Richard and Ann anywhere, not marrage or death or other.

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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Thursday 07 November 13 03:32 GMT (UK)  »
1911 Census for St. Quivox, drainage district of Whitletts, Ayr
4 Blackhouse Crescent
Thomas Welsh  Head  42 Coal miner cuttingmachineman worker  pob Maybole
Isabella            Wife   40                                                                 Dundonald
William J(?)       Son   16 Coal miner cuttingmachineman                    Ayr
Ann Jane           D      13 Scholar                                                      do
Helen                D      12 do                                                             do
Isabella             D      11 do                                                             St. Quivox
Elizabeth           D        9 do                                                             do
Thomas             Son    7 do                                                             do
Robert               Son    5 do                                                             do
May                   D       2                                                                  do

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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Wednesday 06 November 13 13:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,
Taking advice of more experience members, we bought credits on Scotland's people and have found the wedding certificate of Thomas and Isabella. They married in 1893 at Ayr, and we also obtained the 1911 census that shows them living at Ayr with their eight children. They did, of course, go on to have more children. We wish we'd bought credits years ago. Thanks to you all for your help. We are now looking forward to finding out more, now that we know the names of Thomas's parents (Richard Welsh and Anne Jane Dunbar). We found on 'Mapping our Anzacs' that there were only three recorded births at Peshawar, India and that William Bruce Welsh was one of them. Now we will try to find out how Isabella and Thomas have contacts with India.

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Australia / Re: Thomas William Welsh
« on: Tuesday 05 November 13 03:38 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, that is the census we found a while ago. We have yet to learn what happened to Helen. On emigating, Isabella gave her address at 21 Main Road, Whitletts, Ayr, Scotland. Also, we have yet to learn how William Bruce happened to be born at Peshawar, India, instead of Ayr, as he thought. In his service record (Australia National Archive) there is a letter from William, stating that he'd always thought he'd been born in Ayr, Scotland, but he'd since learned that he was actually born in Peshawar, India. Thank you for your help. flownthenest

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World War Two / Re: Albert Thomas Pegler - A Chindit in Burma
« on: Monday 04 November 13 09:34 GMT (UK)  »
rosie99 - Thanks for the info regarding obtaining my father's war service record. The amount of paperwork looks a bit daunting. I'll read through the requirements but on first look, it seems that you have to wait 25 years after a serviceman's death. Dad died in 1990 but I'll read further and see if I can meet the requirements. Thanks again...

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