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Oxfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: King, Dorchester on Thames
« on: Thursday 03 June 10 16:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jill, 

Thank you for writing.  I've been spending a lot of time sorting and annotating all the facts that so quickly became available to me.  Also current family members are making demands for attention.  Some are even about to descend upon me!  :o

The baptismal record of 1767 could be the Joseph in my tree.  This is not absolutely proved, but I think it just possible.  It gives further information, in the event it is reliable: i.e Joseph, born in 1767,  was the son of another Joseph and his wife Lewis (Lois). 

The Joseph, son of Joseph and Susanna, and born is 1807 again is problematic.  The 1841 Census shows a Joseph born in 1811.  That is a difference of 3 to 4 years.  However, dates of birth in the documents of this period are notoriously changeable.  I also wonder if there is a possibility that the Watlington you mention in respect of Mary Richings is possibly Wallingford; or would she bel likely to have been married in Wallingford, or is it likely as a place of registration of civil acts such as marriage?

I would be glad if you would let me know where the baptismal records are located, please.  I will be paying a visit to England perhaps later this year.  In this case I think it would be incumbent on me to look at these records and see if I can reconcile the discrepancies that are currently leaving matters in doubt.

Thank you most heartily for letting me have this information.

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Dublin / Re: Monks, Tubbergregan/Garristown & City
« on: Friday 21 May 10 14:27 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Aghadowney.  Very kind of you!

David

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Dublin / Re: Monks, Tubbergregan/Garristown & City
« on: Friday 21 May 10 14:11 BST (UK)  »
Hello Ambyrne.

Thank you for your response.  I will see if I can find the Griffiths Valuation records that you have so kindly mentioned - I assume it is on line...

The Peter and Andrew Monks from Rush an Lusk are unlikely to be connected, so I will pursue the James at Garristown.  That seems more promising for the moment.

Regards,

David.

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Dublin / Monks, Tubbergregan/Garristown & City
« on: Thursday 20 May 10 17:51 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I'm new here. 

I'm hoping someone will be able to lend some assistance.

My earliest ancestor of whom I have any information was Monks (no given name - yet) of Tubbergregan, Garristown.  He had two sons, Peter (1829 - 1884) & James  (no dates).  Family lore is that Peter moved into the city and worked in a distillery.  James (the younger) remained on the land, where there was also a small quarry.  He made an attempt to sell the interest in the property, but the locals boycotted the sale as he was acting ultra vires.  The land belonged to his brother.  Eventually, at a second sale, it was sold to outsiders (family name available if required), who, we assume, didn't know the full story.  The Statute of Limitations came into force, so they are still there to this time, I believe.  James left in a hurry for America.  Once his money was gone, he came back and died in Dunshaughlin Poorhouse.  About 1901 his remains were exhumed and reburied by my  great-uncle in Ardcath, which was the traditional burial place.  Since then most burials have been in Glasnevin.

As I am in France, I cannot do any 'on the ground' research', but I would be interested in finding out

 - anything possible about the earliest Monks, born about 1790 - given name, dates etc. 

 - also I would like to know if there are any records of the reburial of James Monks in Ardcath, about 1901

Of course any other information would be very welcome and much appreciated.  It's probably asking an awful lot :o

Many thanks.

David Monks

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Oxfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: King, Dorchester on Thames
« on: Thursday 20 May 10 16:09 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Tati!

Ring, King...  I have yet to learn the tools of the trade, and am amazed that within the space of an afternoon so much can fall into place!  I have learnt also that the ages given can vary, sometimes widely.  And I now can see that a K can easily appear as, or be transcribed as, an R.

Now it will be necessary to strike a balance between researching, which is very exciting, and writing up the information in some kind of logical/readable form.  But that will have to wait until tomorrow afternoon.  Morning is already dedicated to a number of tasks and here the time between 12.00 and 2pm is sacred and dedicated to food.  So afternoon it must be.

I greatly appreciate all your help.  It is so kind of you.  Many thanks!

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Oxfordshire Lookup Requests / Re: King, Dorchester on Thames
« on: Thursday 20 May 10 15:18 BST (UK)  »
Hello Tati! thanks for your kind welcome, and also for the information you have supplied. 

You have solved one problem that was bothering me.  Josh seemed a bit odd.  But Joseph is a name that continued down the family until my grandfather's generation - in fact, he hijacked it from his oldest brother to enlist when underage.  And even as an old man, he was known by the diminutive Josie.  The younger Joseph (30) in the 1841 Census (which I have been unable to get into) is undoubtedly 'Josh's' son.  Mary (30) hales from Swyncombe and is almost certainly young Joseph's wife, and William is their son.  It looks like Mary (4) [a new name to me] is their daughter, but she does not appear subsequently, so unless she was 'farmed out' as a young servant, she could well have passed on before the 1851 Census.  Incidentally, William called his eldest child Joseph.  So exit Josh and enter Joseph.  And I think we can dismiss any suggestion of Mary having a dark secret!   :-X

I now (will a little confirmation to come) have the tree reaching back to 1767.  I would never have thought this possible when I started.  I am  grateful to you and to others (off this board) who have so generously helped me.

David.

Thank you also for the link to the records office

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Oxfordshire Lookup Requests / King, Dorchester on Thames
« on: Thursday 20 May 10 14:24 BST (UK)  »
Hello!  My name is David Monks and I am very new to researching family history. 

I have achieved a certain amount.  But I have hit a difficult patch, so I am hoping that someone will be able to advise me how to proceed. 

This is the position: the Kings come Dorchester on Thames.  In the 1851 Census the head of the household is Mary, Widow, Charwoman.   Could widow be hiding a dark secret, viz she had never been married?  It's unlikely as she bore three children.  So how to find out the name of the father?  The children's birth certificates seem indicated, but although I have a Volume and Page reference for one of them, where do I go to get the document?  My searches bring me always back to Ancestry.co.uk, and this only gives the above reference, which is the dead-end I have come to.  BTW, there is also  Josh King, 84 in the house: too old to be a parent.  Perhaps a g/parent of the unnamed husband.  The Census lists him as 'father', but at 84, father of whom?  Should I look into this cupboard?  :)

Can someone please help?
 

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