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Currently working on two Cambourne, Cornwall  residents. 

A. maternal grandmother,  7 August 1896 - 23 Sept. 1976 - (Elizabeth Mary Rubina Gill - nee Uren).

B. maternal grandfather, D.O.B.  29 October 1896 - (Horace H. Gill). 

Today just working solely on 3 generations of maternal GILL father & sons.     

1. Horace H. Gill.  1896 - 1946.  (sailed to NY in 1920)  My Grandfather

2. Charles Jasper Gill, 1867 - ?   (plumber)  Great Grandfather (married Alice Maude M Trewin b. 1868)

3. Thomas Hocking Gill, 1827 -  7 Oct 1895.  (tailor by trade) Great Great Grandfather (On 12 Dec 1859 he married Ann Edwards b. 12 Dec 1824 - Father Jasper Edward - Mother Elizabeth BRIANT.

I can't go any further with Thomas Hocking Gill.  I bet there's a Hocking surname somewhere in his ancestry.

I can't go any further with Elizabeth Briant - the mother of Thomas Hocking Gill's wife.

I can't go any further with Jasper Edwards, the father of Ann Edwards. 

Who is Elizabeth Briant?  Parents?  DOB?  Was she born in St. Hilary in 1793? Are her parents Daniel and Mary? 

Who are Jasper Edward's next of kin.  There's a lot of Thomas Edwards!!
 
I can't even use mathematics  to logically deduce finding the next generation because there are two names who could be related but are both born in the same year in towns a few miles apart. 

Any help would be gratefully appreciated. 

in loving kindness,

Linda Trestrail   

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 15:41 GMT (UK)  »
Well done, Silvery.  I have to say that my ancestors were all hard working people.  They had to be. 

Imagine if all of them could come back to life for a one week holiday in 2012,  and have a family reunion to meet all their descendants over 200 years.   

There'd be hundreds and hundreds of them.  Plumbers, farmers, Beadles, housekeepers, tin miners to  tailors, horse drivers, shoemaker, firemen, sailors, etc.  All those skills and trades!!  And how many pasties did all my grandmothers roll out in their lifetimes?   :-))

In this fantasy, they would all re-enter the world wearing the style of clothing they wore.  They'd all have their accents, customs, beliefs, habits, and lifestyles.  And they'd enter a 21rst century ultra modern hotel in London or New York.  Computers, cars, television, room service, fancy restaurants, new technology.  The music, alone would be startling.  The short dresses and high heels women wear, today, would be shocking.   

They'd be in SHOCK.  When I think of my great great great grandmothers living in tiny row housing in Hayle or Cambourne, or on a farm in Gwinear, with all those children they had to raise with little help, no fans or air conditioning, and all the shoes they had to buy for them, it makes me realize how lucky we are, today.   

Wow, what a blast from the past this is.  There are some famous actors and actresses that are following their ancestral lines and going on vacations to re-trace their roots and also having DNA testing done.

One thing about Cornwall are the names.  I was spending days just looking at the free Cornish Census lists and perusing them until my eyes hurt.  What I couldn't believe is how many people had the same surnames.  And each family had about 5 - 10 family members.  There had to be some in-breeding going on with marrying cousins. 

There was more unwed mothers than we realized, too.  Like Jane who was lucky enough to be able to leave her father's farm with 3 children, and to marry the 'boy' next door. 

Have a wonderful day.  Hope you got some sleep.  It's 11:30 AM in New York and I'd better begin to make up for 29 days of having the whooping cough and get some chores done, and plant some peas in the garden. 

all the best for a very fine day,
Linda
 

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 03:02 GMT (UK)  »
Cocoa has caffeine in it.  It might keep you awake.  I just had a dark chocolate bar.  lol 

I've been on this for a few years but I put it down and then start up.  I did a hand written book and foolishly gave it to my son who can't find it.  I think his wife saw it and felt it didn't pertain to her and tossed it out.  Why did I ever give it to him???  Now I don't even know where my grandfather from Hayle is buried in Brooklyn, New York.  I've lost all the details. 

So I'm starting all over again but with the age of the computer, it is so easy.  I'd been writing to Redruth to get info in the mail when I did this back in the day. 

Now I have friends like you who are helping me find the missing pieces. 

Good night sweet Silvery.

Linda

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 02:57 GMT (UK)  »
I'm signing off for the night.  Been on this computer for days finding all the lost souls of my past.  I feel so oddly connected to them this week.  It has been a labor of love and an obsession to get to this point and I am very pleased with the progress.

Thanks again.

Sweet dreams.

Linda 

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 02:55 GMT (UK)  »
It was on the Cornish Census.  I just Googled a name and came up with the LONG list of census for 1861 and went through the WHOLE thing. 

But the other thing,  freecen that you showed me is AWESOME. 

Can't thank you enough.

Linda

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 02:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Silvery,

I can't sleep either.  From the research I've done, all my ancestors were very "open" with their sexuality, it seems. I still can't find my grandfather Percival Powning Trestrail's father or his birth certificate from Feb. 26th 1885.  I see he lived with his grandparents and one of their daughter's.  My grandpa always talked about a Minnie Jenkins.  That must have been his mother who had him out of wedlock.  He was given her maiden name.  No frigid women in my lineage!!!!   Many got married at 15 and most had at least 5 children and even 10.  One of my ancestors from Cambourne had her 10th child at age 51.

And they lived in row houses with no gardens or back yards for the children to play.  I'd be nuts!!!  
lol

If you have some sleepy time tea like chamomile tea, it might help.  Or a hot bath.

I did not sleep again, last night.  But I managed to get out and buy a big oven roaster chicken on sale and a container of Breyer's Raspberry chocolate ice cream.  Maybe I'll pass out on sugar and too much food, tonight.  hahahahahhaa

Sleep well,
Linda  
Linda  


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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 02:44 GMT (UK)  »
I Googled a few names and came up with the Cornwall census for 1861 and perused down all the names and look what I found!!!!

I know why John Trewin married Jane Hendra.

They were NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS.

112 Trevaskis was the home of Thomas Trewin, age 54 who lived there with his wife, Mary, age 53, and their 4 children...one of them John Trewin, age 21, Ag labourer, St. Martin, Cornwall.

and RIGHT NEXT DOOR was...

110 Trevaskis was the farm of John Hendra, age 70, farmer, who lived with his daughter, Jane Hendra, age 28, and her 3 children.     Gwinear, Cornwall   

This is AWESOME. 

Linda

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: GILL TREWIN Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Wednesday 21 March 12 00:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Silvery,

Oh you are a genius.  Yes I love this site and the tools you are showing me to use.  I'm so grateful to you for that.   I'm not in a position to be paying ancestry.com $30 a month or whatever they are asking.

I took note that Jane's oldest son had a different last name.  It's not a common name like so many of the Cornish names are.  His name was Erskine.  So I Googled it and hoped that would be her maiden name but that doesn't make sense if her father's name is Hendra.  I've never heard of that surname in Cornwall.  I'll have to Google that one, too.

I also noticed that Jane was about 10 years older than John.  Maybe John figured that he didn't have to buy the cow to get free milk, BUT if he married Jane, he'd end up getting the 4 acre farm!!   :-)))

The 1881 census shows them with EIGHT kids - I guess 5 were his. 

I'm very pleased with the work that has been accomplished in the past 3 days.  I was diagnosed with WHOOPING COUGH and have been shut in for 29 days.  Finally at the hospital on March 17 for 11 hours and got the right meds to zap this nightmare bug.

Bless you, dear Silvery. 
Thanks so much.
Linda Trestrail 

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Cornwall Lookup Requests / Re: Gill Trewin Family in Cambourne, Cornwall
« on: Tuesday 20 March 12 22:14 GMT (UK)  »
Dear Silvery,

Oh yes this is it.  I had a note that there were twins and this confirms it.  I can't wait to add all this information into my Family Tree Maker but I see that my 3.4 edition cannot be merged with anything up to date.  I may have to buy a newer disc and pay ancestry.com to upload it.  I'm having a hard time getting anyone to make sense of this with the companies that make the software.   

Thank you so much for providing me with this information.   I'd like to find out the maiden name of Jane Trewin from Gwinear. 

I've gone back to my past and feel a bonding and connection to my roots in Cornwall on a very deep level.   I even was able to use Google Map and get a picture of the row housing my ancestors lived on in Cambourne in 1891.   I've photocopied it and mailed it to my aunt who is 82.  She will be receiving a picture of the house her grandmother lived in before her own mother, Elizabeth Mary Rubina Uren Gill, was born.  EMR Uren Gill was my beloved grandma.     

sincerely,

Linda Trestrail

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