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Hi,
I was wondering if there is a record somewhere of Master Tradesmen.  One of my ancestors Francis Gormley (or surname variants) was a Master Joiner in Ireland - is there any way of tracking this down? (He was also a Roman Catholic - if this helps)

Truthfully, I have no idea where to start - I have had a look at various sites but found them all too complicated!

The last report of Patrick Devlin was January 1892 (aged 15) where he was reported to be working as a drawer at Eddlewood Pit and was residing with a Mr John Smith, miner, Meikle Earnock.  Can anyone tell me where he went or what he did?

Does anyone know any more about this family - where did Thomas II go and did Francis continue living in Scotland?
It appears that Francis Ward snr (F=Thomas Ward, farmer M=Mary Ward m/s Dundas) and his wife Ann Gormley (F=Francis Gormley, joiner M=Ann Gormley m/s Donnelly) were married in Hutchesontown Glasgow 21/12/1872.  They then had Thomas 19.2.1873 (Scots People) and Francis 5.11.1874 (Scots People) and another Francis 28.10.1876 (Scots People) - presumably the first Francis died but no death is recorded. and Mary Ann 8.8.1879 (Scots People).  The 1881 Census lists Francis snr, Ann, Francis & Mary Ann so it appears that Thomas I was deceased at this date - again no death recorded.  They then had a second Thomas 11.2. 1883 (Scots People) and the 1891 census lists Francis snr, Ann, Francis and Thomas so it appears that Mary Ann was deceased at this date but again I have been unable to find a death recorded.    I believe that Francis appears on the 1901 census 644/11.  He also is the informant on his father's death 22.10.1898 (Ann predeceased Francis snr. dying 24.10.1893, although it appears she was at least 10 years his senior).

Andcarred
I have done further research here as it appears this is the only entry which comes close from the time period either in Scot. or Ireland.  It appears that Francis Ward snr (F=Thomas Ward, farmer M=Mary Ward m/s Dundas) and his wife Ann Gormley (F=Francis Gormley, joiner M=Ann Gormley m/s Donnelly) were married in Hutchesontown Glasgow 21/12/1872.  They then had Thomas 19.2.1873 (Scots People) and Francis 5.11.1874 (Scots People) and another Francis 28.10.1876 (Scots People) - presumably the first Francis died but no death is recorded. and Mary Ann 8.8.1879 (Scots People).  The 1881 Census lists Francis snr, Ann, Francis & Mary Ann so it appears that Thomas I was deceased at this date - again no death recorded.  They then had a second Thomas 11.2. 1883 (Scots People) and the 1891 census lists Francis snr, Ann, Francis and Thomas so it appears that Mary Ann was deceased at this date but again I have been unable to find a death recorded.    I believe that Francis appears on the 1901 census 644/11.  He also is the informant on his father's death 22.10.1898 (Ann predeceased Francis snr. dying 24.10.1893, although it appears she was at least 10 years his senior).  Because John gives his age on enlistment on 13th Aug 1915 as 35 & 7 months this would indicate that he was born before the 13th of Feb so I'm going at this stage more with the idea that he was more likely to be Thomas than Francis.  I also thought that Tom was more like John as a name.  Circumstancially Francis gives his occupation as a brass finisher and John's wife Elizabeth was brought up by an aunt in Glasgow & one of her cousins of a similar age to Thomas was also a brass finisher, so it is possible that this provides the connection for John & Elizabeth who were married in Brisbane Australia in 1913 having emigrated separately.  Do you have any further thoughts on this?