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Flintshire / Re: Nannerch Churchyard
« on: Wednesday 03 August 16 12:11 BST (UK)  »
I was passing through Nannerch and visited the Churchyard. You did not say whether he died first or not. The old churchyard has a long narrow extension which started during the 1st World War, but he was not there.
Typical Churchyard with no obvious continuity of headstones, so it meant checking most of the Churchyard. I could not find his headstone. There are a few Jones's and there were very few Edwardian headstones.
Thinking that he may have been buried with his wife or other family member, I rechecked the Jones headstones, and could not find his name at all.
Most of the headstones are limestone with algae and lichens and some very difficult to read.
Sorry to disappoint you.
Regards Eldon

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Denbighshire Lookup Requests / Re: Maggie Davies Abergele
« on: Monday 01 February 16 10:35 GMT (UK)  »
This may be a sheer coincidence:
The passenger list for the first Welsh crossing to Patagonia in 1865, includes a family:
Daniel Evans, 27 yrs
Mary Evans , 23 yrs wife of Daniel Evans
Elizabeth Evans 5 yrs daughter of Daniel and Mary
John Daniel Evans 3 yrs son of Daniel and Mary
All from Mountain Ash.  Details are here:  http://www.drault.com/pdb/Galeses/galeses%20del%20mimosa.html


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Denbighshire Lookup Requests / Re: Maggie Davies Abergele
« on: Friday 29 January 16 16:43 GMT (UK)  »
You say about the sailing 'no husband with her'. Fast forward to today with all the migration, most of which are young men, paving the way for their families to follow. Could that be the case for Maggie? Her 'husband' may already be in Patagonia and pays for the journey 1st class, because he knows she will be alone with the children, for several weeks.

But maybe there isn't a marriage because the man is already married and cannot get a divorce, so they set up home together. Eventually they deicide to emigrate and start a completely new life.
Do you have the children's birth certs? I think once you have identified the father you can then recheck the passenger lists.

Try checking the web for information of people arriving in Patagonia. The National Archives will have some information. I am assuming that they never returned so the children will have settled and raised families of their own.

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Denbighshire Lookup Requests / Re: Maggie Davies Abergele
« on: Friday 29 January 16 12:13 GMT (UK)  »
Rhos is a shortened name for Betws yn Rhos which is a small village just outside Abelgele. It does have a parish church.
Referring to your original message, Maggie could be marrying her cousin as a widow. Her maiden name would be Rawling if the bride/groom fathers' were brothers (or cousins?)
Might be worth checking 91/01 census so see if they have some common ground.

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Flintshire / Re: Feathers Street, Flint in 1870s?
« on: Monday 30 November 15 21:39 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I know the sign you referring to. Some of early census returns did have a few odd numbers.
If you go on the link from Shep, row 11 centre and row 12 ex rt. are the same photo. These could be the bricked up odd number houses, so you could be looking at 1.3.5. They are now store rooms for the shops in Church Street, at the back of the photograph.
On that Flint site there are a number of early maps and you may get a better idea when they enlarged.

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Flintshire / Re: Feathers Street, Flint in 1870s?
« on: Saturday 28 November 15 20:51 GMT (UK)  »
I don't think that there any properties in Feather Street, today. What you are probably referring to are structures at the back of Church Street. All the houses were on the opposite side with even numbers. 2 was the pub, 4 the police station all the way up to the other end where the large building (aerial photo) was a chapel. They were all demolished. Another factor is that the numbers varies from census to census. In one census there was a  house 78, but most have a maximum of 68. Inhabitants were mostly labourers and chemical workers. I am trying to find a street map which shows all the house numbers, circa 1950.

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Flintshire / Re: Feathers Street, Flint in 1870s?
« on: Wednesday 25 November 15 23:28 GMT (UK)  »
Got these from http://www.fflint.co.uk/thumbs18.html

I doubt you'll find any Victorian pictures.

These are Victorian buildings. They all appear in the census returns. I was born in no 68 which I understand is next to the large building at the end which was a chapel. At the other end was a pub and the police station There is footage on youtube of these houses being demolished to make way for the flats (circa 1965) They lasted over 120 years and now the flats are being demolished. They lasted 50 years!

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Denbighshire / Re: Tracing Grandfather Arthur Lloyd Jones from Rhyl
« on: Tuesday 24 November 15 20:55 GMT (UK)  »
My wife has showed me a picture of Steers wine merchant at 73 High Street, which is the next to last building at the top of High Street next to the prom (circa Edwardian). It is at an angle so I could not see the front. She has also showed me a more modern one with Woolworths opposite.
These are all on  Facebook under 'we love old Rhyl'.
This as not answered your question re the photograph, but given that this place is very close to the theatres on the prom, it may be worth further exploration.

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Denbighshire / Re: Tracing Grandfather Arthur Lloyd Jones from Rhyl
« on: Tuesday 24 November 15 13:45 GMT (UK)  »
My money is on the man sitting in the middle. He has same shirt collar and  uses a stick.

If you scroll to the left of the newspaper page you will see an advert for wine merchant at 73 High Street. (Don't know about the fountain) Maybe the same place? Not sure what it is today.

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