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Thank you so very much Heywood, I have now found him in 1911 under McCay.
Very grateful for the marriage hint too, that's going to be a great help, with female side.
Yes silly of me not to say exactly, I would love to find any trace at all of the elusive Robert.
But would be most grateful of any help at all.

To date, I have.....
Stephen Mckay m Bridget Cullen Birth 1896 in Killeenasteena daughter of Patrick Cullen and Johannah Garret

Many many thanks, and so fast, this is brilliant.
There are many details that make me sure its him, I have occupation Automoble stock keeper.
His father was Henry, but his mother was Sarah Spinks, not Mary Spence. As is shown correctly in the other record you offer to show. I had difficulty reading some of that, and only got the place as Toronto.

Could you now be kind enough as to indicate where i should look, as to areas of Canada etc, as I don't understand them at all.
When earlier trying to search, I was always asked for region or similar, which I had no idea of.

Wonder who his first wife was and if there were any children
I have a couple of clues.
Marriages Dec 1915
 Cornwell  Frances E  Dell  Islington  1b 744   
Dell  Charles F  Cornwell  Islington  1b 744   

Marriages Sep 1916
Dell  Charles F  Upton  Richmond S.  2a 1039     
Upton  Jeannette  Dell  Richmond S.  2a 1039   

again I cant thank you enough best regards Brenda

Help please, I have a Richard Puddle married Grace Dennis 1805 Greatt Missenden.
So far from census etc, I have found 3 possible children for them, all born Little Missenden after 1814, I feel sure there must be some born before this, as they had been married 10 years, when the first one that I can find was born.
can anyone please find any Baptisms etc

Here is what I have.

Birth Date   1770
Birth Place   Stanford in the vale Berkshire
Death Date   1827 Age 57
Death Place   Buckinghamshire
Father   Richard Puddle (~17451805)
Mother   Jane Winterborne (~17451808)
Marriage Date   21 Apr 1805
Marriage Place   Great Missenden, Buckinghamshire

Spouse   Grace Dennis

Birth Date   1782
Birth Place   Penn Buckinghamshire
Occupation   pauper 1851
Census Date   1851 Age 69
Census Place   Little Missenden Buckinghamshire
Other Spouses   William Witney

Children

1 F   Letitia Puddle
Birth Date   1814
Birth Place   Little Missenden Buckinghamshire
Death Date   1892 Age 78
Census Date   1841 Age 27
Census Place   Wooburn green Buckinghamshire
Spouse   James Young
Marriage Date   12 Oct 1836
Marriage Place   Rickmansworth Hertfordshire

2 F   Isabella Puddle
Birth Date   1819
Birth Place   Little Missenden Buckinghamshire
Census Date   1841 Age 22
Census Place   Hammersmith
Census Date   1851 Age 32
Census Place   Little Missenden
Census Date   1861 Age 42
Census Place   Amersham Buckinghamshire
Census Date   1871 Age 52
Census Place   Little Missenden
Census Date   1881 Age 62
Census Place   Red Lion Lane Amersham Buckinghamshire Buckinghamshire
Census Date   1911 Age 92
Occupation   dress maker serv

3 F   Julia Puddle
Birth Date   1822
Birth Place   Little Missenden Buckinghamshire
Census Date   1851 Age 29
Census Place   Ivy fsrm house Chesham Buckinghamshire
Census Date   1881 Age 59
Census Place   Redlion lane Amersham Buckinghamshire Buckinghamshire
Census Date   1841 Age 19
Census Place   Chesham Bois
Spouse   William Joiner

1 John Burtenshaw cox
Birth:   1796, Clayton
Birth:   1800, Lindfield
Death:   1885
Occ:   Yeoman
Father:   Richard Burtenshaw Cox (1745-1822)
Mother:   Sarah Vernon

Extract from the  Marriage Index: Place: Ardingly, West ,  Date:  3 Jan 1836: Subject: John BURTENSHAW, bach Spouse: Jane WICKING, sp botp  (B)   BT  1841 Haywards Heath, Cuckfield     Roberts, Frederick, 7, No Burtenshaw,  John, 40, LB, Y  ?June/Jane, 25, No  John, 4, Y Inness, female, 7 months, Y

Extract from the  Marriage Index: Place: East Chiltington, East ,  Date: 26 Oct 1825: Subject: John Burtenshaw COX, bach Chailey Spouse: Sophia EGLES, sp otp (B)  

Spouse:   Jane Wickens
Birth:   1812, Hadlow Kent
Father:   James Wickens
Mother:   Phoebe
Marr:   21 Jan 1836, Ardingly

Children:   John (1836-)
   James (1840-)
   Philip (1847-1897)
   Fanny (1849-)
   Clara (1853-)
   Frederick (1855-)
   Alfred (1858-)
   George Burtenshaw (1824-)

Other Spouses Sophia Egles, Sophia Constable

1.1 John Burtenshaw
Birth:   1836, Ardingly

unmarried  45

1.2 James Burtenshaw
Birth:   1840, Keymer

1.3 Philip Burtenshaw
Birth:   1847, Clayton/Lindfield
Death:   1897, Horsham  area
Occ:   Hawker and marine store collector

Spouse:   Mary
Birth:   1852, slaugham
Marr:   no trace

Children:   Mary Anne (1867-)
   Frederick (1871-)
   Philip (1872-)
   James (1876-)
   Alfred (1879-)
   Clara (1882-)
   William (1884-)
   Henry (1887-)
   George (1890-)

1.3.1 Mary Anne Burtenshaw
Birth:   1867, Clayton

Spouse:   Jesse Holmes
Marr:   1892, Hambeldon area

1.3.2 Frederick Burtenshaw
Birth:   1871, Partridge green
Occ:   hawker

1.3.3 Philip Burtenshaw
Birth:   1872, Clayton/horsham
Occ:   Hawker

Spouse:   Mary Anne Smith
Birth:   1874, Redhill
Marr:   1894, Redhill

Children:   Mary Anne (1895-)
   Philip (1897-)
   Amy (1898-)
   un named (1901-)

1.3.3.1 Mary Anne Burtenshaw
Birth:   1895

1.3.3.2 Philip Burtenshaw
Birth:   1897

1.3.3.3 Amy Burtenshaw
Birth:   1898, Cowfold

1.3.3.4 un named Burtenshaw
Birth:   1901, Cowfold

1.3.4 James Burtenshaw
Birth:   1876, Horsham
Occ:   Hawker

Spouse:   Alice Booker
Birth:   1874, Horsham
Marr:   1895, Horsham

Children:   James (1896-)
   Clara (1899-)
   Marshall Frederick (1901-)

1.3.4.1 James Burtenshaw
Birth:   1896, Horsham

1.3.4.2 Clara Burtenshaw
Birth:   1899, Warnham

1.3.4.3 Marshall Frederick Burtenshaw
Birth:   1901, Warnham

Spouse:   Lillian Spooner
Birth:   1902, Horsham

Children:   Roy (1931-)

1.3.4.3.1 Roy Burtenshaw
Birth:   1931, Warnham

Spouse:   Doreen Hillman

1.3.5 Alfred Burtenshaw
Birth:   1879, Horsham

1.3.6 Clara Burtenshaw
Birth:   1882, Horsham

ELIZABETH CLARA ON CENSUS AS CLARA

1.3.7 William Burtenshaw
Birth:   1884, Horsham

1.3.8 Henry Burtenshaw
Birth:   1887, Horsham

1.3.9 George Burtenshaw
Birth:   1890, Horsham

1.4 Fanny Burtenshaw
Birth:   1849, Lindfield/newick

widow 1881 sis  of John 1794 Clayton  wllia is with him 1881 say nephew ?? but is grandparents??

Spouse:   William Piper
Marr:   23 Jul 1870, Brighton
with uncle John b Clayton

1.5 Clara Burtenshaw
Birth:   1853, Beeding

children

Spouse:   George Bracker
Birth:   Wiltshire
Marr:   25 Dec 1874, Clayton

1.6 Frederick Burtenshaw
Birth:   1855, Lower beeding

father on marr says born hailsham 91 but is resident there

Spouse:   Elizabeth (Betsey) Murrey
Birth:   1856, Brighton
Marr:   18 Oct 1879, Clayton

Children:   John (1874-)
   Susannah (1876-)
   Fanny (1880-)
   Robert Simeon (1882-1943)
   Philip (1884-)
   Clara (1886-)
   George (1889-)

1.6.1 John Burtenshaw
Birth:   1874, Burgesshill

1.6.2 Susannah Burtenshaw
Birth:   1876, Burgesshill

1.6.3 Fanny Burtenshaw
Birth:   1880, Burgesshill

Spouse:   Richard Theobalds
Marr:   1904, Coventry

1.6.4 Robert Simeon Burtenshaw
Birth:   1882, Burgesshill
Death:   1943, Wivelsfield

Wivelsfield  St JOHN BAPT Inscription: In loving memory / of / a devoted husband and father / ROBERT SIMEON  BURTENSHAW / who passed away 7th March 1943 / aged 61 years

Spouse:   Nelllie M Taylor
Marr:   1910

1.6.5 Philip Burtenshaw
Birth:   1884, Burgesshill


1.6.6 Clara Burtenshaw
Birth:   1886, Burgesshill

1.6.7 George Burtenshaw
Birth:   1889, Burgesshill

1.7 Alfred Burtenshaw
Birth:   1858, Steyning
Birth:   1860, Clayton

not sure if right father but father on marr

Spouse:   Ellen Vigar
Birth:   1857, Brighton
Marr:   13 Mar 1879, Brighton

Children:   Alfred (1879-)
   Edith louise (1901-)

1.7.1 Alfred Burtenshaw
Birth:   1879, Brighton
Occ:   butcher

with grandparents Vigar 1881

Spouse:   Alice maud Perrin
Birth:   1878, Woodford Essex
Marr:   Mar 1900

Children:   Ellen May (1900-)

1.7.1.1 Ellen May Burtenshaw
Birth:   1900, Lindfield

1.7.2 Edith louise Burtenshaw
Birth:   1901, Lewes

adopted

1.8 George Burtenshaw Constable
Birth:   1824, Lindfield

with Burtenshaw 1851



George Burtinshaw Constable 1851 Oct-Nov-Dec    Lewes  , East    
 Charlotte Ann Gallop 1851 Oct-Nov-Dec    Hastings (1837-1977)    
Stephanie Josephine Anastair Pauline Legendre 1851 Oct-Nov-Dec    Lewes
 Jane Piper 1851 Oct-Nov-Dec    Lewes  , East    
 Mary Ann Tomset 1851 Oct-Nov-Dec    Lewes  , East    

1841
Edward Constable 60  
Eliza Constable 20  
Fanny Constable 3  
George Constable 15  
Harriet Constable 9  
William Constable 15  
 



 

Hi I believe this is who you are looking for
1861 Priory street, The Holy Trinity, Hastings
William b 2 apr 1806
baptised 27 mar 1808
Beckenham Kent

1 John Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1783
Birth:   abt 1783
Death:   1849
Occ:   fishmonger
Father:   Burtenshaw

NOT BORN KENT no trace marriage cd

Spouse:   Winifred
Birth:   1785, Goudhurst Kent

Children:   William (1806-)
   Emanuel (1808-)
   James (1821-)
   Lydia (1824-)
   Elizabeth (1821-)
   John
   Frank

1.1 William Burtenshaw
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Birth:   2 Apr 1806, Beckenham Kent

none born Hastings kids or parents

Spouse:   Julia
Birth:   1816, Cowfold Sussex

Children:   William (1842-)
   Charles (1844-)
   Harriet (1848-)
   Julia (1850-)

1.1.1 William Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1842, Kent

1.1.2 Charles Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1844, Kent

1.1.3 Harriet Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1848, Kent

1.1.4 Julia Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1850, Kent

1.2 Emanuel Burtenshaw
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Birth:   Mar 1808, Beckenham Kent

1.3 James Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1821, Beckenham Kent

Spouse:   Emma
Birth:   1821

Children:   James (1840-)
   Walter Selby (1842-)
   Eugenia (1845-)
   Frederick (1848-)

1.3.1 James Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1840, Beckenham Kent

with grandma Winifred 1851

1.3.2 Walter Selby Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1842, Bromley Kent

1.3.3 Eugenia Burtenshaw
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Birth:   21 Jul 1845, Beckenham Kent

1.3.4 Frederick Burtenshaw
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Birth:   14 Mar 1848, Beckenham Kent

1.4 Lydia Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1824, Beckenham Kent

1.5 Elizabeth Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1821, Beckenham Kent

1.6 John Burtenshaw
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Spouse:   Jane

Children:   Thomas (1839-)
   Frederick Emanuel (1842-)

1.6.1 Thomas Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1 Feb 1839, Beckenham Kent

1.6.2 Frederick Emanuel Burtenshaw
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Birth:   1842, Beckenham Kent

1.7 Frank Burtenshaw
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Birth:   Kent  ?

Spouse:   Eliza

Children:   Fanny (1842-)

1.7.1 Fanny Burtenshaw
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Birth:   15 Feb 1842, Beckenham Kent

with grandmother Winifred