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England / Parker family 1841 look-up request - help needed please!
« on: Saturday 01 October 11 16:35 BST (UK)  »
I'm so stuck it isn't funny. If anyone has the time and inclination, I'd really appreciate help on this, please.

When I had subscriptions to the census sites, I searched and searched to no avail. I can't afford a subscription again right now but I'm hoping that someone might be able to crack this nut.

I am looking for this Parker family in the 1841 census:

John Parker, born about 1808 in Canterbury, Kent (labourer)
Elizabeth Parker, born 1804 in East Dereham, Norfolk
Susan Parker, born 1828 in Market Dereham or East Dereham, Norfolk
Thomas Parker, born 1830 in Mattishall, Norfolk
Clementia Parker, born 1832 in Market Dereham or East Dereham, Norfolk
Harriet Parker, born 1840 in Chatham, Kent

Notes:

They are in Chatham, Kent in 1851 but son Thomas is not living with them. I believe my Thomas Parker, who is living nearby with his new bride in 1851, is their Thomas.

I need to find the family together in 1841 with son Thomas. I am trying to prove the link between my Thomas Parker and this particular Parker family.

Daughter Harriet was born in 1840 in Chatham, Kent. Son Abraham was born in 1843 in Chatham, Kent. Children Susan, Thomas and Clementia were all baptized very soon after their births in Norfolk. However, Harriet and Abraham weren't baptized until 1851 (in Chatham, Kent). I don't know what this might indicate.

Thank you in advance for any help.
Josephine

Edited to add: I put this request in the General category because they don't seem to have been enumerated in Kent in 1841. They might be in Kent  somewhere and I just couldn't find them but they also might be in another county, including Norfolk.

20
Technical Help / Email from Rootschat re. my log-in?
« on: Sunday 21 August 11 02:10 BST (UK)  »
I received two emails from ""RootsChat.Com" ***@***" (*)saying:

Dear Josephine,

This mail was sent because the 'forgot password' function has been applied to your RootsChat membership. To set a new password click the following link (if you have diffculty clicking the link, you can also cut-and-paste into your Internet browser):

[deleted]

IP: 94.171.195.73

Username: Josephine

Regards,
The RootsChat.Com Team.



Is this an authentic email from Rootschat?  I did not attempt to log on to Rootschat today, nor did I click on the "I forgot my password" button.  Also, the IP listed is not my IP by a long shot! 

Does this mean someone is trying to hack my Rootschat or email account?

Thanks,
Josephine


(*) Moderator Comment: e-mail address deleted.

21
US Resources & Offers / Oregon State Insane Asylum - Library of Dust
« on: Sunday 07 September 08 01:28 BST (UK)  »
This is very sad but perhaps it might be useful info: 

http://www.rootschat.com/links/049d/

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Rootschatters, please see the entire article.  Can anyone help the police locate the rightful owners of this suitcase?

From Arkansas Online.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/040h/

"Police: Suitcase opened after 60 years found in Rogers

"BENTONVILLE — Scattered remnants of Howard W. Evenden’s life were placed gently on a table at the Benton County sheriff’s office.

"Family members are frozen in sepia-toned photographs. Soldiers walk beside a World War I tank down an unknown road in Europe. An envelope torn on one side is postmarked 1944 from someone in Iowa and addressed to Evenden in Rogers.

"A suitcase containing pieces of Evenden’s history was found Thursday morning on a residential driveway in Rogers.

"Deputies looked through the photographs and material, dating as far back as the 1800s, for clues about whom the suitcase belongs to.

“'I don’t think this has been opened for 60 years,' said Sgt. Rich Conner.

"Deputies said they found several photographs of a man they believe is Evenden. There is also a 1937 Iowa driver’s license that listed Evenden as 56 years old.

"The sheriff’s office is looking for information about the whereabouts of Evenden’s family so they can return the lost luggage..."

[...]

23
Scotland / Cause of death: Black Jandies? COMPLETED THANKS!
« on: Tuesday 01 April 08 12:51 BST (UK)  »
I've just been informed that the cause of death for my 3rd-great-grandfather, George Oliver, a baker in Hawick who died in 1850, was "Black Jandies". 

Does anyone know what that means?

I've tried an internet search to no avail. 

Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Josephine

24
Scotland / Isabella Grace = Jane ???
« on: Wednesday 13 February 08 21:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, All!

Have any of you run across anyone named Isabella or Grace being called Jane?

My great-grandmother, Isabella Grace Pryde, was born in June 1870 in Edinburgh.

I have copies of her:
-  birth registration (made in June 1870)
-  birth certificate (issued in 1940)
-  marriage record (1893)
-  1901 census with her husband and children (listed as Isabella G.)
-  1912 ship list to Canada ("Mrs")
-  husband's World War One record
-  obit

All give her name as Isabella Grace.  Birth & marriage records list her parents as Robert Pryde, mason (journeyman), and Mary Muir.

But...

The family that I am convinced is the right one seems to have listed Isabella Grace as Jane in three censuses!  (At least they were consistent, I guess.) 


1871 Census
St. Cuthbert's Edinburgh, Midlothian
23 Ponton Street [Isabella Grace was born at 36 Ponton Street]

Robert Pryde, 45, mason
Mary Pryde, 35, wife
Mary Pryde, 13, daughter
Janet Pryde, 7, daughter
George Pryde, 3, son
Jane E. Pryde, 9 months, daughter, born Edinburgh


(Thanks to Dave, I can see that the image says Jane E., so it was not mistranscribed.)


1881 Census
Galashiels, Selkirkshire
51 Wood Street [this is the address on Robert Pryde's 1883 death and cemetery records]

Robert Pryde, 55, mason
Mary Pryde, 43
George Pryde, 13, son
Jane Pryde, 10, daughter, born Edinburgh
Robina Pryde, 8, daughter

(Transcript from ScotlandsPeople.)


1891 Census
Galashiels, Selkirkshire
322 Galapark Road

Mary Pryde, head, 54
George Pryde, 23, son
Jane Pryde, 20, daughter, born Edinburgh
Alice Pryde, 9 months, granddaughter

(Transcript from Ancestry.com.)

When she was married in 1893, Isabella Grace's usual residence was Meigle Street, Galashiels and she was a darner in the wool factory.  When her mother, Mary (Muir) Pryde, died in 1900, her usual residence was 35 Meigle Street, Galashiels.

I'm certain this is the right family, although there is a bit of confusion about some children who weren't listed with them in the census.  (The confusion will likely be cleared up in future when I have some money to buy records pertaining to all of their children.  I'm not too worried about it right now; it can wait.)

Jane's age, especially in 1871, lines up perfectly with Isabella Grace's.  I am sure this is my great-grandmother. 

But why, oh why, would they have called her Jane?

Thanks for any ideas you might have!

Regards,
Josephine

25
Scotland / Marriage lookup please - PRYDE - Completed Thanks
« on: Sunday 27 January 08 20:40 GMT (UK)  »
Original title:
If daval57 is still offering to do a look-up on Scotlands People...



...Would you please look for a marriage for the following person? 

I do not know where or when the marriage took place.

Helen Easton PRYDE (she might have been called Ellen)
Born:  25 April 1859 in Stow, Midlothian (per LDS IGI)
Parents:  Robert Pryde & Mary Muir

According to her sister's paperwork, Helen married someone with the surname of Turnbull and had at least three children:  Gladys Myrtle Turnbull, George Ballantyne Turnbull and Thomas Melrose Turnbull.

Some or all of the Turnbulls seem to have emigrated to Australia or New Zealand at some point but I don't know when.

I have Helen in the 1861 census transcript with her family but I can't find her after that.  I think I have her parents in 1871 & up but Helen/Ellen is not listed with them.  If I have the right family in 1871, they were in Edinburgh St. Cuthberts, Midlothian.  If I have the right family in 1881, they were in Galashiels, Selkirkshire.

Thank you in advance, either way.  It was kind of you to offer and I'm sure you've been inundated with requests.

 :)

Regards,
Josephine


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Roxburghshire / MI for Hawick 1850 & 1884? ANSWERED THANKS
« on: Saturday 12 January 08 18:43 GMT (UK)  »
If anyone has access to a listing of monumental inscriptions for Hawick, would you please look someone up for me?

My 3rd-g-grandfather George Oliver was a baker in Hawick.  According to the inventory of his goods (taken in 1851), he died 20 September 1850, so there is no official death record for him.

As far as we can tell, he doesn't seem to have written a will (we couldn't find one on ScotlandsPeople).

We have the record of banns for his marriage to Janet Brown in Edinburgh in 1823.  It does not list George's father's name (although it does list Janet's father's name).  It describes him as George Oliver, Baker, College Parish.

In the 1841 census of Hawick, he is listed as:
George Oliver, 40 [or 41?], baker, born in county

We have ruled out the George Oliver who was born in 1803 in Hawick to John Oliver and Jane(t) Fairl(e)y.

mccubbin (a Rootschatter) found four George Olivers on the LDS site who were born in Roxburgh around the right time.  I wasn't able to track them all in the census transcript but I couldn't find any obvious links.

George's widow, Janet, died 11 March 1884 in Hawick.  We have her death record.  I expect she is buried with George.

I am hoping that George Oliver's tombstone inscription might contain a clue as to where he was born or who his parents might have been.

If no one has access to this information, do you know where I might write to inquire?  I've tried searching the internet with no luck.

The LDS FHC in my city (Toronto) has told me at least three separate times (over the last few years) that it is not possible for me to order films through their office.  I was told to subscribe to ScotlandsPeople and Ancestry if I wanted actual images of parish records.

Thanks in advance for any help!
Josephine

27
The Lighter Side / What Would You Say?
« on: Wednesday 02 January 08 19:10 GMT (UK)  »
Several months ago, I was contacted by a distant cousin who had seen a message of mine on a genealogy site.  She gave me a bit of info about more recent generations of her branch and I gave her lots of info going back to our common ancestors and the various branches of their children.  I also pointed her to the internet site that has an uncredited copy of another tree of mine which was donated by a cousin without my permission.

This week, I received an email from another distant cousin from that same branch.  He said, "My cousin _______ has discovered the maiden name of our common ancestor and has just about sorted out the whole family tree!"

Mind, he didn't tell me the maiden name, just said she had discovered it.

I wrote back, saying how glad I was to hear from him, and mentioning that I am the one who sent his cousin all of the info, including the maiden name in question.  I also said that I had sent her some very early baptisms and, if she hadn't yet shared them with him, I'd be happy to email them to him.  I told him who I was descended from and asked if he had any info he could add to what I had on his branch.  I spent a lot of time on my email to him.

He wrote back, saying, yup, I was right about which branch he was from, and he'd found a baptism for our common ancestor somewhere but was too tired to look it up.  (There would be no way of proving that it was for her.  I am doubtful about this person's standards of research.)

That's it.  No "thank you for your kind offer".  No, "thanks so much for sharing your tree with my cousin".

Tell me, please, what you would say?  I did my best not to sound peeved.

I'm happy she is sharing it with her cousins but it would have been nice if she had said, "A cousin sent me this," rather than, "Look what I've discovered!" 

Cousins, bah humbug!

Regards,
Josephine

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