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My cousin gave me these details from a marriage certificate that he has but he doesn't know if this couple is related to our Barnett family.  I thought that, if I could see them in 1851, perhaps the census record might provide a clue.

16 December 1840
Sun Tavern, Chatham, Kent
Edward Elias Barnett, Ironmonger, 160 High St., High Holborn, London
married
Sophia Magnus, 2 Front Row, Ordnance Place, Chatham

Thank you for any help!

Regards,
Josephine

Hello, Rootschatters!

I am trying to help a cousin find out more about his Donnell family from County Tyrone and I wonder if you could give us some help and advice?

I’ve suggested that my cousin write to the church in Clogherny (I found the address online).  Is there anything else he can do or anyone else he can contact for help?  We are in Canada. 

I’m finding it all bit confusing.  It looks as if there is a 1901 census of Ireland but that it’s not available online anywhere.  Is that correct?  Is it available on disc for sale anywhere?

This is all we know:

My cousin’s great-grandparents:

Thomas Donnell
Mary Ann Bridges


According to the LDS website, they had at least three children:

Jeremiah Donnell
Baptized 23 April 1873
Clogherny By Beragh, Tyrone

Robert Donnell (my cousin’s grandfather)
Born 6 May 1876
Beragh, Tyrone

Eliza Donnell
3 March 1880
Beragh, Tyrone


Robert Donnell came to Canada in 1893 on board The Parisian, which left Londonderry, Ireland on 14 July and arrived in Quebec on 31 July.  He is the only Donnell listed on that journey.

Robert Donnell got married in Canada; his marriage record lists his parents as above.  According to the 1911 census, he was Anglican.  We have his marriage record and the birth records for most of his children (in Canada), and we have him in the Canadian census in 1901 and 1911.  Unfortunately, he didn’t talk about his family back home in Ireland and there are no letters or other documentation to provide any clues.

Thank you!   
Josephine

Folks,

I would appreciate any help or suggestions you might be able to give me on this.

I’d like to learn about the family of my 4th-great-grandmother, Hannah / Ann Roberts, born about 1800 in Suffolk (possibly Ixworth).  I have no clues about her family of origin, however, and I’m guessing that Roberts was not an uncommon surname.

This is probably more background info than you need.  I hope I’m not confusing the issue.  Here goes.

I finally found my 4th-great-grandmother in the 1871 census and it lists her birthplace as Exmouth, Suffolk.  I was all excited and happy until I checked Genuki and couldn’t find an Exmouth in Suffolk (there is one in Devon).  The closest I could find was Ixworth, so I’m guessing that maybe she wrote down Ixworth and the census guy transcribed it as Exmouth.  Of course, I could be wrong.  Or she could have been born there and baptized elsewhere.

Her maiden name was Hannah Roberts (per her daughter’s birth record).  In 1871, she was listed as Ann Roberts.

I suspect that she was not married to my 4th-great-grandfather, Barnett Barnett.  It looks like he was Jewish and she was Anglican.  Their first child (per the 1841 census) was born about 1826 in Kent (probably Chatham).

I couldn’t find a marriage record for Hannah Roberts and Barnett Barnett in the Anglican parish records online at CityArk.  Barnett Barnett did not convert to Christianity (he was a member of the Chatham Synagogue Hebrew Society while they were married).  It looks as if Hannah did not convert to Judaism (she was buried in the Anglican church cemetery in Chatham while her husband was alive).

She was listed by her maiden name in 1851 (the "housekeeper" living in Barnett Barnett’s household) & 1871 (the "widowed" mother of her unmarried daughter, Rebecca Barnett).  This makes me wonder if they were actually married.  She was listed as Barnett Barnett’s wife on her death record and on their daughter’s birth record.

Anyway, all that to say that there doesn’t seem to be a marriage record that I can consult for her father’s name.  If they weren’t actually married, that might have been a bone of contention for Hannah, and that might explain listing herself by her maiden name sometimes.

The 1841 census (in Chatham, Kent) says Hannah was not born in that county.  In 1851 & 1861, everyone in the household was listed as being born in Chatham, Kent.  Then in 1871 Hannah was living apart from her husband, with one of their daughters, and her birthplace was listed as [the non-existent] Exmouth, Suffolk.

Why does this always happen to me???  (Yes, I’m whining, LOL.  If I don't feel sorry for myself, who will?)

Hannah died in 1872.  Barnett Barnett died sometime after the 1891 census.  I can’t identify him in the death index on FreeBMD or Ancestry, so I can’t order his death record or search for a will (although, since his wife was already dead, it’s doubtful he would have mentioned her father’s name).  Barnett Barnett doesn’t seem to have had any money or property, so it’s unlikely he would have had anything to leave to anyone in his wife’s family.  (I've been told by a cousin that he was not buried in the synagogue cemetery in Chatham, Kent.)

I checked the online index to Pigot’s 1823 – 1824 Directory of Suffolk but there aren’t any Roberts men listed in Ixworth.  If her father was a farmer or a common labourer (assuming he was still alive), he probably wouldn’t have been listed in a directory, anyway.

I don’t know when or why Hannah would have moved from Suffolk to Kent and if it was before or after her marriage. 

There aren’t any Roberts relatives listed with Hannah’s family in any of the census years. 

I’ve looked at the website with Suffolk gravestone photos but found no clues.

I don’t have access to the census records online so I can’t search for any Roberts living in Chatham in 1851 who were born in Suffolk (on the off chance that that might provide a clue).

Thank you for any help or suggestions you might be able to give me!

Regards,
Josephine

If possible, would someone please look-up the following person / family in 1901 for me? 

A family member thinks this is my great-grandfather's sister but we don't have anything other than a name.  I can't find a marriage between a Sarah Ann George and ? Regelous in Bethnal Green on FreeBMD, so I don't even know what her husband's name might have been. 


In Bethnal Green, London:
Sarah Ann Regelous, 31, born Bethnal Green, Tailoress


Thank you for any help!
Josephine

Two weeks ago, I received a PM from a new Rootschat member who hadn't posted even once.  We exchanged emails and then spoke on the phone the next day:  he's in England and I'm in Canada.

On a whim, he had decided to do an internet search on our common ancestor:  Barnett Barnett from Chatham, Kent.  Up popped a link to my queries on Rootschat.  He was in a tizzy, trying to figure out how to join and how to send me a message.  He saw that I was offline and assumed I might never receive the message.  He was amazed that I emailed him that night!

It turns out he is descended from a daughter of Barnett Barnett who "disappeared" from my view after the 1841 census.  I didn't know if that daughter had died or gotten married:  all I had for her was a big question mark.

My new-found British cousin left for vacation the day after we spoke and I am eagerly waiting for him to return so we can start swapping documents and data!

Many thanks, Rootschat!

Regards,
Josephine