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Lanarkshire / Re: Nancy Sloss Update
« on: Friday 02 February 24 19:37 GMT (UK)  »
Nancy is to Agnes and Nellie is to Helen what Sandy is to Alexander and Jessie is to Janet. They are completely interchangeable and even where someone signs their name or is officially recorded as Agnes and Helen, their friends, family and themselves will just as often refer to them as Nancy and Helen.

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Scotland / Re: Cousins...who married who?
« on: Thursday 01 February 24 22:38 GMT (UK)  »
The obvious answer is that the couple's fathers (James and Robert McKenzie) are brothers.

Have you traced the family back in the censuses?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin to Englaish assistance
« on: Wednesday 31 January 24 14:08 GMT (UK)  »
conjugum = [of] spouses
ejusdem = of the same
fuere [a form of fuerunt] = were

On the 29th day of January 1786 was baptised Margaret, daughter
of Philip and Mary Murray spouses, born on the 26th day
of the same month. Godparents were
                              Richard Hanlon
                                      &
                              Sarah Bolger

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Peeblesshire / Re: Houses in Walkerburn
« on: Wednesday 31 January 24 13:57 GMT (UK)  »
Looking at the indexes to the valuation rolls for the parish of Innerleithen on ScotlandsPeople, nothing comes up for Alexander Stewart in 1855, but from at least 1861 he seems to have owned two houses at Pinkbank, one of which he occupied himself and the other was rented out to a tenant.

50
Could L. S. be language school and the abbreviated word ending in /pore be the name of a place?

52
The Lighter Side / Re: A worldwide family history success story
« on: Thursday 25 January 24 09:43 GMT (UK)  »
Me too!
I'm never going to find oil paintings of my lot! :)

However, you can always make sure there is an oil painting of your good self for future generations to admire  :)

53
The Isle of Man has preserved Ecclesiastical Presentments, including those for Fornication.

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Presentments were accusations of offences against Ecclesiastical law made by the wardens or chapter quest of each parish to the twice-yearly church courts held around Easter and November. Family historians will be familiar with them as a common crime presented, was that of fornication, as proved by the appearance of an illegitimate child, both mother and putative father, where known, were presented. Fornication was illicit sexual relationship by an unmarried party, adultery was an illicit relationship by a married party.
(Taken from ManxNoteBook)

The guilty lady was "persuaded" to name the putative father, of face a fine.

Maybe such evidence is available in other areas?
N.B. Most are not online. Maybe in Diocesan Archives?

In Scotland the equivalent is the minutes of the kirk session for each parish which can give a great deal of information about cases of fornication. Unfortunately, in this particular case the parish must have kept a separate discipline register which is either lost  or not available online. At least the accounts book is available and that contained the reference to the payment of a penalty for fornication which led to the discovery of the baptism.

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Perthshire / Re: Location in Monzievaird & Strowan
« on: Wednesday 24 January 24 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
Here is Quoig in a map of 1747-52. The spelling here is "Quoich".

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=15.0&lat=56.38454&lon=-3.91221&layers=3&b=1

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