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Aberdeenshire / Re: Place names in and around Aberdeen
« on: Thursday 03 February 11 21:44 GMT (UK)  »
It was not unusual at that period for folk from the county to be burgesses. Many of the landed families had a house in Aberdeen as well as estates in the country. Just because someone is described as 'of' a place, i.e. owns it, does not necessarily mean they lived there. Ancestors of mine who were burgesses of Edinburgh in the 16th century owned land in several counties and got income from renting it out to others.

Graham.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: Place names in and around Aberdeen
« on: Thursday 03 February 11 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.

I have just looked up my copy of the Spalding Club's 'Place Names of Aberdeenshire'. There is a place in the parish of Forgue called Bainshole. The oldest reference  given is from the Aberdeen sasines in 1600 when it is Banishoill. Roy's map of 1747 gives it as Benshole.

Graham.

4584
Fife / Re: My mystery
« on: Wednesday 02 February 11 22:02 GMT (UK)  »
Kirk session minutes are in the National Archives of Scotland. They have been digitised and can been read in that form there. Later this year they will be made more widely accessible. I may have an opportunity to see them later this month. If I do I'll see if I can find anything relevant to your ancestors.

Graham.

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Banffshire / Re: Stuck in a mire of Wilsons of Gamrie
« on: Wednesday 02 February 11 20:37 GMT (UK)  »
If you can get hold of James Wilson's baptism, see who the witnesses were. It is possible he was called James after one of them. I know there is this 'tradition' about naming children in a set order after grandparents, but it was not always followed, especially if one of the grandparents were dead and wouldn't be offended at being missed out. Do you know the name of the deceased William Wilson's father? Could it have been James? It would be an interesting exercise for me  to check the naming patterns of the children of my ancestors to see how often the 'traditional' system was actually used!

Graham.

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Fife / Re: My mystery
« on: Wednesday 02 February 11 20:21 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.

In a case like this a good place to look is in the minutes of the kirk session for the parish. The session investigated cases of illegitimacy and associated 'sins'. If you are lucky you might find quite a lot of detail.

Graham.

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Dunbartonshire / Re: Dumbartonshire area - Hay family - Peter (or patrick?) Seaton Hay
« on: Wednesday 02 February 11 20:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.

There is no connection whatsoever between the names Peter and Patrick in terms of their origin. However, in earlier times in Scotland the names seem to have been interchangeable. I have several 18th and early 19th century ancestors who appear as Peter in one record and Patrick in another. Hope this helps.

Graham.

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Banffshire / Re: Stuck in a mire of Wilsons of Gamrie
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 21:45 GMT (UK)  »
The 1841 census was taken much later in the year than the subsequent ones (shows those who spent the night of 6th June in a household), so the Parkneuk Wilson won't show up in it, though a widow, if there were one, might. Spinster is an occupation. Agents used to come round delivering flax and collecting the spun thread: a useful sideline. If a husband does not appear in the 1841 census, it may just mean that he was not at home that night - could be out at sea. The fishing families of Gardenstown and Crovie tended to marry amongst themselves and there are relatively few surnames in these places - lots of Watts, Wests, Wisemans etc. A grandfather of mine, Samuel Craik, was a fisherman there (he had an uncle with the same name) and just disappears after 1828, presumably lost at sea.

What I would do in your position is assume he was lost at sea between the birth of his last child and the 1841 census. In 1841 his wife is given an occupation, that suggests she is a widow as otherwise it might be left blank. The James Wilson looks like a son who is the main earner. Perhaps if his father had been alive and out at sea, James would have been in the same boat. The kirk session might have given the family something if it were in straightened circumstances. Also, if you have access to the microfilm roll for the Gamrie OPR, have a look at the baptism entries for other people. Who witnessed the baptisms of your family of Wilsons? See if you can find your William Wilson as a witness to other families' baptisms. When does he stop appearing?

Graham.

4589
Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / Re: Robert Johnston & Margaret Imlah
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 18:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hi.

Alexander Imlah, Margaret's father, married Louisa Duff Mitchell in 1859. Louisa's parents emigrated to Oregon and Alexander Imlah went with them. I suspect Robert Johnston and Margaret Imlah went too. I have an enormous amount of information (and many frustrating gaps!) about the Imlay/Imlah family to which Margaret belonged. She was the daughter of Alexander Imlah, the son of James Imlah, the son of Alexander Imlah, the son of John Imlay, the son of Alexander Imlay (born 1688), the son of John Imlay.
My own branch kept the spelling Imlay, others varied it from one to the other or started using Imlah all the time.

Don't hesitate to get in touch if you think I can help you further.

Graham.

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Banffshire / Re: Stuck in a mire of Wilsons of Gamrie
« on: Tuesday 01 February 11 16:40 GMT (UK)  »
Parkneuk is south of Dubford. It is inland, so the Wilson from there would not likely be a fisherman. One thing about ages in the Gamrie burial register is that when they say someone was 82, they usually mean he was in his 82nd year, ie he was 81. I have found this quite often to be the case when I've had a precise date of birth to compare.

Graham.

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