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Part two:
Will of Hardin TALBOTT of Stretton on Dunsmore
At Coventry, 8 OCT 1784 (see also 16 FEB 1801)

ITEM. To my grandchild Ann GUNTON the interest of £100 to be paid for her life. Should she die leaving no children the £100 shall be returned again to my family.
Also two pair of sheets, all my wife's weaving apparel both linens and woollens of all sorts, one gold ring, her grandmother's snuff box and gold and silver bodkins, a chester drawer, the best chest, a long box, seven black chairs, the looking glass and sconces in the Palor, the tea table as goes with a spring, the card table, the tea chest and what belongs to it, the tea tongs and six silver teaspoons marked with [E.C], a tea kettle and all the Cheney, the buckles and buttons I wear, a pewter basin, a poset pot and stand marked with [E.J] a tobacco plate marked with [E.C], the mortar and pestle, the little cleaver and carving dish, the little fender, the little fire shovel and tongs and the little irons as belong to them. The clothe horse and night stool and the bed pan, a pair of flat irons, a lock iron and heaters, my Great Bible with the Apocrypha in it, the cupboard in the House, the warming pan, the best pair of brass candlesticks, a hanging candlestick, the tinder box, the ladle and pepper box, all brass, a barrel and pot and a frying pan.
To my gt-grandchild Elizabeth Gunton, interest of £20 yearly until she is twenty one, then to receive the principle. (If Elizabeth dies her portion to go to her sister Susanna). Also to Elizabeth one gold ring.
To my gt-grandchild Susannah interest of £20 etc.. (If both die without heirs, to go to their mother Ann and if all die, to go to their nearest Talbot relations). Also to Susanna, one gold ring.
To my maidservant Sibel Veasey £10. Also a flock bed and bedstead with bed furniture, three blankets, pillows and what belongs to it. Also mourning and every thing decent to wear with it.
To my son Hardin Talbot the interest of £340 (if he dies to go to his sons Thomas & William). Also a silver pint for his life (then to go to Thomas and if Thomas dies without heirs, to go to William)
To Thomas my second best clothes and to William the next best cloaths. My shirts to be parted between Hardin William and Thomas only two shirts I give to my grandson Richard Gunton.
A suit of mourning to Hardin, William, Thomas, Ann and Richard Gunton.
I also appoint William SMITH of the parish of Dunchurch, Warwickshire and Richard Matthias , Mason of Stretton on Dunsmore as trustees.
Signed 24 APR 1784.
Witnesses: James YOUNG, Samuel YOUNG,    Thomas JENKINS

Yes I did misunderstand as I thought you were referring to another marriage, Richard Torbett to ?Emlin Boovey in Alcester Jun 1706.

RE the gaps in baptisms etc I was mainly thinking of the trees that have for some reason taken Thomas of Ryton on Dunsmore and matched him up to a 1750 baptism in Kineton. That he called his firstborn son Hardin does put him into the Ryton on Dunsmore families.

Hardin seems to first appear with Emlins son Hardin born 1708.

I have a William Talbot born 1753, brother of Peggy, who is tentatively lined to the Leicesteshire family of Wiliam Talbott of Willoughby Waterlees. Again the name Hardin is the link, but as I mentioned, even with that link we cannot be sure he is the William born 1753 in Ryton on Dunsmore. By the time each sibling repeats the same names in their own families there could be more unseen clones around with the same name and same relatives.

Yes my head does get twisted by the possible permutations. I can't be sure I haven't made an incorrect assumption somewhere, such as that the Elizabeth Talbot who died 1830, was the wife of Hardin's grandson Thomas, and was Elizabeth Smith whose sister Catherine married Chaplin.

Or that Elizabeth's claiming probate on Thomas Talbott's will on 3 Apr 1818 supports that the Thomas Talbutt buried 3 mar 1818 was her husband, not the husband of Mary Saunders. I Judge that Thomas and Elizabeth did not have any family of their own but their marriage in 1784 was after the last of Thomas Talbot and Mary Saunder's children were born (Sarah born 1780). So it is possible that Elizabeth was Thomas's second wife provided Mary Saunders died between 1780 and 1784, and not in 1817 as in the other Ancestry trees.

Elizabeth Talbot who died 1830 certainly did not leave any money to her own children, nor any of her own relatives unless her nephew William Gunton was an actual blood nephew rather than her husband's nephew.

Cheers

Linda

I have checked the list of trees in Ancestry that have William Talbott b 1778 son of Thomas Talbott and Mary Saunders and none of them have a spouse for William, so I do not know who he married.

Thomas was supposedly born in Kineton, son of John and Sarah but looking at a very extensive tree for John and Sarah of Kineton, there is no match to Thomas and Mary Saunders so I have my doubts.

I suspect the Thomas who married Mary Saunders belongs to the family one of the brothers of Hardin Talbot born 1708.

Correction Harding son of Thomas and Mary was at Gt Berkhampstead Hertfordshire.

I just checked when Thomas Talbot died. Burial recorded as Thomas Talbut, on 3 Mar 1818 at Ryton (age 60). Wife Elizabeth (61) also recorded as Talbut, bur 20 Apr 1830. I have not found the original note I made of her will, only an extract. The date on that extract is 8 Oct 1830. Hopefully that is the date the will was proven otherwise  she is not the Elizabeth who was buried in April 1830.

It would be good to know if there is anything relating to the William Talbot who married Elizabeth Ladbrook who may be the William who was buried 14 Apr 1820.