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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry - Pay per View
« on: Monday 16 May 05 09:01 BST (UK)  »
I too started out with pay-per-view, but soon realised it was worth a subscription - my units ran out quite quickly.

With an all-you-can-eat deal, you don't mind browsing to see who lived along the road, or even finding a nearby street which still exists to get an idea of where your ancestor's now-demolished home used to be. You don't feel "cheated" when the person you want happens to be on the continuation sheet.

You also don't mind following up "possible" hits. With a fast connection, I find myself going straight to the original images rather than trying to work out things from the transcriptions and summaries.

No, they didn't pay me, either!

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The Common Room / Re: Reasons for lying about age?
« on: Tuesday 26 April 05 12:17 BST (UK)  »
If she said she was 20 when she married, it's probably true. She would still need the consent of her father until 21. It is also possible that she had lied to her intended about her age (either direction) and stuck to that figure for the wedding!

I've people in my lot claiming to be 21 at marriage and reverting to their real ages later; I have people who lied about their age by as much as 7 years and stuck to it for the rest of their lives ( the wife probably had a better memory! ) and one of my grandmothers could never remember her own age. She had knocked a couple of years off earlier in life, varied the number of years knocked off, and was surprised to find she had missed out on a couple of years pension when her original birth cert came to light. One ancestor aged only 3 years between censuses, while his wife aged the full ten. It makes a couple of years worth of adjustment perfectly normal!

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Liverpool Trade Directory Lookup
« on: Tuesday 26 April 05 10:22 BST (UK)  »
There are a couple of Liverpool directories on historicaldirectories.org which might fit the bill. 1825, 1829 and 1853 seem most appropriate.

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Lancashire / Re: How real are signatures on marriage cert.?
« on: Monday 25 April 05 13:51 BST (UK)  »
Some register offices hand copy the original entry; others provide a photographic facsimile.

The ones I've had from Bolton register office seem to be the genuine article. The people there are much more helpful than the Liverpool ones it seems. While-you-wait service when I or my parents called in.

On one cert from there, my mum and I decided independently that the bride and one witness had been taught to write by the same person, or that the witness (Anne Swindley) had been taught to write her name by Ann Jones specially for the wedding. Neither version of "Ann" was anything like the registrar's writing, but there was definitely a similarity there.
Further research showed that both women came from the same small village in rural Cheshire.

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In 1871 John Jr and Mary Ann are at 13 Rathbone St, Chorlton on Medlock. He is 24 and a Bricksetter's Labourer, she is 20 and an Operative in Cotton Factory.
No children there.

IGI have John Dolan and Elizabeth Merner married at Manchester Cathedral on 20 Jan 1840.

Are you sure John Sr was b Manchester? There are quite a few suspects b elsewhere.
The oldest Mancunian I can find in 1871 is John, 44, b Manchester at 27 Smith St, Ardwick.

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Lancashire / Re: IS IT ACTUALLY WIGAN ??
« on: Monday 25 April 05 12:02 BST (UK)  »
I seem to have the opposite effect in my tree. People mention places which now have faded from view. Westleigh, for example, is just part of Leigh these days.
Marsh Green, a district in 1871, is just the name of a road today.

The Wigan area seems to have retained more of its district names in common use than many towns. The one I love, still seen on the destination boards of buses, is "Dangerous Corner".

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Lancashire / Re: walkers
« on: Wednesday 20 April 05 08:23 BST (UK)  »
I'm not surprised at the occupation. Weaving would be a hard trade for a 71-year-old, so he probably made a living in 1871 by selling things. Later on, having fully retired, he put down the trade he had done for most of his life.

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Lancashire / Re: walkers
« on: Tuesday 19 April 05 12:10 BST (UK)  »
I guess you are referring to the Henry at 18 Wheathill St Salford.

The scanned image for Henry has a line through the digit at the front of his age, making it difficuly to read. I've compared it with other digits written by the same chap, and I'm convinced it should read 81, making him born in 1799 or 1800.

In 1871, he is at 10 Burgess Buildings, Salford as a Hawker, with Mary, 62, b Manchester, Edward, son, 15, b Salford and Ann Hargreaves, married daur, 39, b Salford.

If this is the chap, it's no wonder you couldn't find his birth in 1810!

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Lancashire / Re: Trade Directory for Liverpool 1850's?
« on: Tuesday 19 April 05 11:04 BST (UK)  »
There are online scans of Slater's Directories of Important English Towns, 1847 and Gore's Directory of Liverpool & its Environs, 1853 at historicaldirectories.org.
I'd bet that the Gore's would be the more complete listing.

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