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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Thursday 18 December 14 03:24 GMT (UK)  »
I'm sorry I don't really understand I know I must come across as daft or sthing but what are you're saying re these Oakley people so are you saying Laura lived with them at one stage and I don't understand the name changes I know I'm s dumb dumb right lol ..so do you think Laura was with anybody in s relationship?? I'm confused.  Yes I don't believe she married but wondered if she msy of had a defacto or bf?

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Thursday 18 December 14 03:13 GMT (UK)  »
Lauras mum Sarah had lived Warandyte rd research

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Thursday 18 December 14 03:08 GMT (UK)  »
Can do no I haven't left anything out from the transcription mr Oakley was down as a friend to Laura.

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Thursday 18 December 14 01:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all

Thanks Sue.

I must say that  I'm a bit disappointed that we weren't able to establish a relationship between Laura
And  a Allan and the story amongst family was that she was with this R A Allan and that she had left Dunn for him.   So I'm a bit disappointed not having documents or something to support what Dunn had said and the family has believed  I had even got help in the past from those on another genealogy help site that had said that too. And if she had of been in a relationship with this Allan she couldn't of got married and looking at electorol rolls I didn't see her listed at her last known address...maybe that was another Laura Mavis Allan at Essendon Mmm weird..I definately don't know what to make of it all.

Just to note-Lauras dad was born Frederick Charles but he went by and died under Charles.And her mum Sarah Ellen Patterson nee Aitkin died under the Riseley name ( re 2nd marriage) as Ellen Riseley.

I'm also surprised that Laura chose to abandon all her kids and leave them with Dunn who was supposed to be an alcoholic and abusive when it would've made more sense to of given them to her mother who was still alive and who'd raised Lauras neice (my hubbys mum) or put them into care?  Or the fact that family said she had a lot to do with the Salvation Army,as did too,her mother.

Which brings me to add that their was always a strong Salvo connection.

I do have a few other family mysteries by they don't relate to Laura herself though.

Thankyou

Overton72

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Wednesday 17 December 14 07:34 GMT (UK)  »
laura mavis plaque

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Wednesday 17 December 14 07:29 GMT (UK)  »
Tried to post the certificate image but file too large (pdf) do not know how to shrink it so ill just type it.

Description- 18 January 1982

When and where died- Essendon victoria

Usual residence-31 Cooper St Essendon Victoria

Name and Surname -Laura Mavis ALLAN

Occupation-Cleaner

Sex and Age-Female 69yrs

Cause of Death and Duration-

Cardiac Arrest minutes
Chronic Renal Failure-5 years
Left Ventricular Failure-10 years

Legally Qualified Medical Practioner by whom certified and when he last saw deceased:

Dr White 11 January 1982.

Name and Surname of father and mother-(maiden name if known), with occupation-

Charles Patterson
Sarah Ellen Patterson
maiden name-aitkin
Occupation Carpenter.

Signiture,descripription and residences of informant:

Certified by- Mr Barry F Oakley
23 Avalon Street
Mooroolbark Victoria 3138

Signiture of Registration officer  (signiture)

Date-15 January 1982
Where registered-Melbourne Vicotria

if burial Registered(adapt if required) -21 January 1982

what and where buried-CREMATED  at Memorial Park Cremortorium North Altona.

Undertaker by whom certified- G Allison

Name and Religion of Minister or names of witness of buriall-R McKenzie
                                                                                      B Pascoe

Where Born-Geelong Victoria
Period of residence in Australia-69yrs

If Decease were married-at what age and to whom:

Brunswick victoria
17yrs
John James Dunn

Cnijugal Condition at date of death:DIVORCED

Issue in order of birth,the names and ages

Kelvin Raymond John 49 yrs
Helen johanna-47yrs
Dorothy Kathleen 45 yrs
Charles James Deceased
Jennifer Rosalind Deceased.


My Comments-I downloaded and paid for this image of Vic bdm (got sick of waiting for it to be sent)
tried to send/copy here but file was too large and i do not know how to shrink it.

Well it appears she DIDNT marry R A ALLAN then but she took the Allan name!.

She died under Allan and her Plaque you can see on line at the Altona Cemetary.

MORE INTERESTINGLY...

Whilst Charles James Raymond Dunn is deceased died 1961/inquest-1962 Jeep Accident.

The last person listed is not Dead and is very much alive this I find very interesting as im sure dear cousin will indeed herself be shocked.


Regards overton 72

Ps- Feel free to edit the last name mentioned as even though the image/cert states she is deceased,she is very much alive.





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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Wednesday 17 December 14 03:40 GMT (UK)  »
Okey Dokey.

Thankyou.

Kind Regards

overton72

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Wednesday 17 December 14 01:45 GMT (UK)  »
I write what I get told or know.

Keep in mind that I'm trying to research a family that no one knows much about because nothing has been past down nor did all family grow up knowing each and other either my husband or his mum didn't grow up being told much and my mum in law didn't grow up knowing all her (this family) either the family is and had been scattered all over the place.

So unless I can prove something by documents etc then  it may very well seem like speculation. I have only been doing this a couple of years so still pretty much a novice and I'm the most researched person on this family in the family and I've done a lot with only a little help here and there this hasn't been s easy family to research to say the least so therefore if it appears I'm speculating then so be it.

In regards to the death certificates also keep in mind that I'm now in my forties only ever sighted a nsw death cert as I lost my 2 dads young and didn't/don't hold the certificates so I'm going /trying to Anway remember from being a  young kid.

When I receive the death certificate. Don't know when , I'll post it.

Thankyou

Overton72

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Australia / Re: Surname-Allan-Maribyong,Essendon- Victoria-Australia
« on: Tuesday 16 December 14 23:31 GMT (UK)  »
Ive seen my dads death certificate but maybe nsw are different I don't know ?? Again I only know what I've been told I'm thinking that maybe??? She may of married him ?? As they're saying according to certificate they were a couple and Laura did die under Allan.

I can only tell what I get told this is snd had been a very mysterious family many things weren't spoken about, passed down etc it's been a interesting yet complicated family to trace/follow and u keep finding more and more surprises.. Unknown fostering,bigamy,abuse,name changes,illigitimate kids, adoptions, wife desertions etc...& I thought the Overton side was interesting lol...but this side is more like trying to be a detective...my hubby has a lookalike who speaks English but has the german accent knows us but us not him. Followed us for years never made himself known, entered house whilst slept been seen by others but won't make himself known to us I wish we did know him (even though I'd love to interrogate him lol..as then maybe I'd know outside Australia just who Lauras dad really was etc..this lookalike military connections too.Told you this mob if my husband was like solving a mystery lol.

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