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I have been travelling in Europe, so haven't been doing much of this research, but got back a few weeks ago and ordered the marriage certificate for my G grandparents, Thomas Dalley and Bessie Westacott on 29 May, 1878. I now have a bit of extra information: His father is given as Thomas Dalley, deceased, labourer. So this rules out the Joseph Dallow possibility, and possibly the whole Dallow connection. I will now be taking a second look at all the likely records of Thomas Dalley I can find, for both people.

Christening Familysearch Pilot;
John Charles JONES, 10 Aug 1845, Fownhope With Fawleye, Hereford
Parents JOSEPH Jones and ANN
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WILLIAM Jones 05 Sept 1847, same Parents

Now in 1871 Census William is down as Jones and Anns Son.
FreeBMD also has several possible Mary Ann Jones born c 1856 reg Hereford

More questions than answers sorry

I think there's a good chance these are the right people. Last night, after pondering having received a birth certificate for the wrong person, I got to reviewing what I had on the Dallow line. I looked again at the fact there was a William Jones listed as a son in the 1871 census. When I first saw that, back when I was beginning this, I thought of the possibility of a previous marriage for Ann Dallow to someone named Jones. With my  approach then being at the novice level, I quickly became hopelessly swamped by the sheer number of Jones hits no matter how or what I tried to search, so sort of gave up and put the "Jones" factor on the back burner, only occasionally thinking about this son, William Jones, in the 1871 census.

But then, last night, I decided to search for the oldest brother, Charles, not present in the family, under Jones, and straight away turned up a potential match in the 1881 census:

RG11 Piece 2593 Folio 91 Page 24

JONES, Charles  Boarder  Married  M 35 1846 Laborer - Born in Fownhope 

Living with MORGAN family at 29 Maylord St. Hereford St. Peter

I put great stock in the Fownhope birthplace, because it's so small.

And there's also a Charles Jones in the 1871 census, very close to the rest of the family:

 Piece: RG10/2692 Place: Fownhope -Herefordshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Fownhope Ecclesiastical Parish: Fownhope
Folio: 7 Page: 8 Schedule: 40
Address: Fiddlers Green

JONES, Charles    Lodger    M    M    27    Labourer     Herefordshire - Fownhope

Interesting that, though the birth certificate I received contained no information other than the negative fact that it wasn't the right one, it spurred me to look at the Jones factor again, but in a different way.

Thanks very much for this information, which I did not have, about the two christenings.

Now, I have to look into the matter of the union of Joseph Jones and Ann, including when Joseph died, and when the husband named Dallow arrived on the scene.

Does your Mary Ann Dallow marry Frederick WEllington on 30 Jun 1878 at Fownhope?  If so, perhaps it would beworth getting her marriage cert to see what she puts for her fathers name.

Yes, and your idea of getting her birth certificate could provide a lead.

Thanks for the reply.

So far, it doesn't look like our lines are connected. As far back as I've got, I find my GG grandfather and GG grandmother Robert Westacott and Mary Gaydon working on the same farm as servants before they were married. This is from the 1841 census where they are shown working for the Davy family farm in Denniton, Swimbridge, near Barnstaple. They married in 1844. Robert Westacott was born in Atherington, Mary Gaydon in Swimbridge. Different censuses converge on a birthdate of about 1816 for Robert, but vary from 1816 to 1825 for Mary Gaydon.

Regards,

Fred

I'm interested in hearing from those researching the Dallow name in the 19th cent. in and around Fownhope.

Here's the story so far: my G grandfather was called Thomas Dalley by the time he shows up in Cardiff, marriage in 1878 to Bessie Westacott (b1855) from Swimbridge, Devonshire. Shows in 1881 and 1891 Wales censuses in Cardiff, and died in Cardiff in 1897.

In one census he's shown as being born in Fownhope. Fownhope was a very small place, a few hundred, I think. The only reasonable match I can find is a Thomas Dallow born in Fownhope in 1854, and he shows up in the 1861 and 1871 censuses living in Fownhope with widowed mother Ann Dallow. In 1881 Thomas Dallow disappears from the census and Thomas Dalley appears with the appropriate background. I think these entries are the same person.

Ann Dallow has very inconsistent birth years in the censuses in which she appears, but usually being shown as born in Woolhope, very small and very close to Fownhope.  I don't know her maiden name, but have sent for Thomas Dallow's birth cert., which is in the mail - mail strike here in Canada  I'm hoping this certificate will reveal the father's name, and possibly the mother's maiden name.

Dallow seems to be an obscure name with very few researching it, or at least that's my impression.