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The Common Room / help to find a business property
« on: Sunday 25 September 11 19:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

Firstly i hope im putting this in the right section but apologies if not and i will put in correct section if advised.

I am hoping someone can help me find out where my ancestors business might have been and what it might have been called.

My 2x great grandfather has been listed on my great grandmothers wedding certificate as being a laundry proprieter.  He has previously been listed on census's as being a laundryman master . My mum  vaguely remembers that there was a laundry business in the family but doesn't know who inherited it etc.

How would i find the business and where it would have been?

My 2x great grandfather was called Henry Carter and it was 1910 when he had a business.

His family moved around the Banstead street, Astbury Road and Ivydale Rd are in Peckham throughout his and his  daughters life.

Im really unsure as to how to find this out so any help would be greatly appreciated.


Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: name help to unlock my tree
« on: Friday 15 July 11 20:18 BST (UK)  »
hi there

sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I have finally received the birth certificates for both girls.
Turns out they were twins!!.

Mary Ann Woolnough is their mother and thomas riley (a gas stoker) the father.

It looks like the family were possibly illiterate as the mother signed both certificates with an X.

Im wondering if the father was iliterate, could that be why the name was william smith?

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: name help to unlock my tree
« on: Saturday 02 July 11 20:06 BST (UK)  »
wow, thanks so much for your info and help everyone. Thats great.

Im gonna use this info with Emma Holmes to order her marriage certificate and see if betsy is a witness for her and wether thomas is listed as her father.

Also the thomas ryland info is fantastic, im not quite sure what to order first to see if it links in correctly.

Any suggestions on what would be best to order first? I wonder if betsy is registered under a different surname at birth??

Once again, huge thanks!

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: name help to unlock my tree
« on: Tuesday 28 June 11 21:46 BST (UK)  »
hi there

Her marriage certificate states he is a Stoker with Foreman in brackets underneath, which is where the link with the family in liverpool ties in.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: name help to unlock my tree
« on: Tuesday 28 June 11 21:23 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

firstly thanks for the welcome and thanks for your answers.

I have looked at the following queries and got myself even more confused as the info i have doesnt pinpoint a definete family/birthname.

She says her birth place is Surrey Rotherhithe in 1911 and 1901 so there is no change there.
She is consistent with her age in all census too.

She married in 1888 which is the correct entry as found by JonathanC and she was 19 and a Spinster.

I did consider illegitimate but she states her father as Thomas Ryland  but also has an Emma Ryland signing as a witness with a George Daniels.

I cannot place her in a census prior to her marriage as there isnt a Thomas with an Emma in West Ham, Essex.

I have found a Thomas Ryland (A Coal agent) with a Betsy Ryland in 1871 census in Liverpool, and then with her mother in 1881 under Rylance.

Thomas is not there in 1881 but i cannot place him anywhere down south in West Ham to prove the link with his job to her future husbands job as a Gas Stoker.
Also there is not Emma Ryland in that family.

Im soo confused and was hoping this name might have shed some light.

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / name help to unlock my tree
« on: Monday 27 June 11 22:54 BST (UK)  »
Hi there

very new to this and was hoping that someone could help me find out a name. My 2x great grandmothers name is preventing me from going any further with her side of the tree. Her marriage certificate says Betsy Ryland (her maiden name), her census in 1901 says B King, and her 1911 census says Bessie king and her death certificate says Bessie King.

Yet when i do a search for either a Betsy Ryland or Bessie Ryland for rotherhithe areas for her birth i come up with nothing. I know her father is called Thomas Ryland as he is on the marriage certficate.

I feel this census with the most complete name for her is my biggest clue but i cant tell what it says.

She is third from the top underneath her husband George KIng

Can anyone help me with this??

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