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Somerset Lookup Requests / Re: BURTON, Henry - Nettlecombe and/or Old Cleeve
« on: Friday 15 July 16 11:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Possibly, but until I can establish birth/bapt details for the Henry in my post I don't  really know.

Thanks for looking though.

Frank

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Somerset Lookup Requests / BURTON, Henry - Nettlecombe and/or Old Cleeve
« on: Friday 15 July 16 10:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi

One of my latest brick walls is Henry Burton.  All I have so far from the usual online resources and especially the Old Cleeve Parish Records is the following:

married Grace WATTS on 16 Nov 1761 at St. Andrews, Old Cleeve.

I believe Grace was born about 1733 in Nettlecombe to Thomas Watts and Mary Brownson (or Brownfern on some sites).

Their 3 kids that I have traced between 1762 and 1772 were born either Old Cleeve or Nettlecombe.

My brickwall is that Henry does not appear in any of the parish records for those two villages or any of the other surrounding villages as far as I can tell.

Can anyone help with some possible candidates?

Thanks in advance.

Frank

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Lanarkshire / Re: HOWATT / HOWIT / HAMILTON / DAVIDSON FAMILY - Govan / Barony
« on: Sunday 19 January 14 19:16 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry for delay in replying had internet problems all week  >:(

Not surprisingly the more info that comes to light the more questions occur to me.

Need a little clarity of your last information.  Were Marianne and Christina sisters of Euphemia or as you suggested earlier, maybe other relatives eg grandchildren of George and Jane or perhaps nieces of Euphemia?  I thought it also interesting that Christina was born in Ireland, the only one of the family that was although I couldn't find her on Familysearch. And Jane Dunn where do I start with trying to find out how she fits in?

You stated Christina married Bowman Steven but I'm guessing that was a typo and you meant  Christian (b1814). I have tried to search the Familysearch website but their new site is nowhere near as easy to use as their old site. I can see individuals but there seems to be no way to find "households" as there was with their old search engine. Maybe I'm just not seeing the logic they want us researchers to use. I tried searching by film number but again it just lists individuals and there seems to be no way to discover the "relationships".  I can't even find the Christian/Bowman marriage on there. Frustrating to say the least.

I guess I'll just have to shelve my research on this line until such time I can resubscribe to Scotland's people. Thanks for all your help.

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Lanarkshire / Re: HOWATT / HOWIT / HAMILTON / DAVIDSON FAMILY - Govan / Barony
« on: Wednesday 15 January 14 12:35 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the info.

It's been a while since I did the original research via Scotland's People. Since moving overseas my subsription has lapsed so now relying on the various free resources available online and the almost exhausted credits I have with GenesReunited.

From what I can see, Euphemia is the sister of my GGF. I did some quick cross checking online last night via Freecen and I am as sure as I can be without seeing paper evidence that it's the same family. Thinking about the Jane Hamilton Howat b1840 and David Howat also born 1840, could they have been twins with the former perhaps not surviving?  As mother Helen doesn't appear in the 1851 census there is a suggestion she died in the period between their birth and 1851.

I know father, John was alive in 1851 as we established he was with his sister and his 3 youngest children.

In the 1841 census, Euphemia is living with their mother Jane  SCT1841/646  folio 3 Pg41 with two other Howats, Marianne and Christina, 15 and 10 respectively and Jean Dunn aged 2. The latter child also appears with the family 10 years later in 1851. Jane doesn't so I have to assume died between the censuses.

Unfortunately, freecen doesn't include later scottish censuses so I'm not sure if I can get much further forward. Any help you can give or pointers in direction would help a lot.

Again Thanks in advance.

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Lanarkshire / HOWATT / HOWIT / HAMILTON / DAVIDSON FAMILY - Govan / Barony
« on: Friday 10 January 14 12:17 GMT (UK)  »
Been a while since I've been on here but I'm now back on the track of my great grandparents family and have so far established the following:

John Hamilton Howat(t) b 7/12/1805 Govan married Helen Davidson bc 1806 Barony on 25/11/1831 Barony.

i believe John descended from George Howat(t) bc 1780 Govan and Jane Hamilton bc 1870 Govan.

I have 4 children for John and Helen (based on census returns 1841/1851 checked via GenesReunited):

James bc 1832
Jane bc 1834
George bc 1837
Jane bc 1840

Experience tells me that with gaps between the above children there were probably others. I found a David Howat(t) also born 1837 who might fit but am not convinced he's the same family.

Any help establishing names, dates, places etc would be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.

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Midlothian / Re: James Lauther bc 1815 Cramond
« on: Saturday 14 August 10 20:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi
Not really got much further.  The info I have is as follows:

James Lawther bc1790 married Helen McAra (bc1789) on 27/12/1811

They had 10 children (that I know of):

John    b1812  (died as an infant same year)
James  b1814 *
Janet Isabella  b1816
William        b1818
Alexander   b1820
Christian     b1822
George       b1825
William        b1827
Helen         b1830
Robert       b1832


*James married a Mary Gillespie on 16/6/1840 - produced 2 sons, both called James. Last was born on 3/12/1848 and Mary died on 5/12/1848.

James then married Jane Hamilton Howatt 0n 30/12/1849 - produced 5 children. Jane died in 1870.

I have no details of any other marriages for James and Helen's children.

What info do you have?

Regards
Frank



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Somerset / Re: ELLIS of Norton Fitzwarren
« on: Monday 22 February 10 22:09 GMT (UK)  »
Trevor

Not yet got any further on parents etc for James and Charlotte Ellis but hoping my recent acceptance as Somerset OPC for Norton Fitzwarren may give me access to some helpful info.  Currently, I have started transcribing the 1841 census for FreeCen for the Taunton Dean area. It may take me a while as I work full time but if anything relevant crops up I'll let you know and Sarah know.

Sarah

Yes, along with Trevor Ellis we are distantly related.  Do you two know each other?

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Lanarkshire / Re: 1901 Census - Atwell - Glasgow
« on: Friday 22 January 10 19:06 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Just to confirm that the two later marriages are both my Grandmother - her maiden name was Humble Hansell Young but she had been married before to a John Black, I think around 1914. They had one child that I am aware of, a daughter, Joanne born 1915/16.

I believe John Black was killed during WW1 around 1918; still to prove that for certain as it was a common name and there are many possibilities listed on the CWGC site but it seems likely as my Grandmother is shown on her marriage certifcate to my GF as being a widow at that time, 1921.

regards
Frank

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Lanarkshire / Re: 1901 Census - Atwell - Glasgow
« on: Wednesday 20 January 10 12:56 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Monica.

The death searches are a good idea but again they'll have to wait until I'm back in the UK next year so I'll just bide my time on that.

In the meantime you mentioned three marriages between 1896 and 1940 - the first in 1906 (accounted for), the second and the the third, when?

I guess the second will be 1921.  Maybe knowing the third year I can tie that into the other info I have.

Kind regards
Frank

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