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Gloucestershire / Re: William Haynes Marriage Brick Wall
« on: Tuesday 27 April 21 17:14 BST (UK)  »
Capetown

I confirm I have the John & Elizabeth Haynes you noted as my William`s parents. William in later Census Returns is noted as a Shoemaker and Master Bootmaker therefore carrying on his father`s trade.

The Ann Beard christened on 30 July 1809 in Painswick could be a sibling of the Thomas Beard you mentioned as coming from a non-conformist family.

rosie99

I guess it`s possible as we know that widows and widowers didn`t hang around long before finding new partners in these times.

Lots of bits and pieces that link Ann Beard and William Haynes but the crucial evidence of their marriage is still evading me/us.  If either of you think of anything else please update this thread as I shall do if I discover any evidence.

Thanks for all your help.

Knarf45


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Gloucestershire / Re: William Haynes Marriage Brick Wall
« on: Tuesday 27 April 21 15:37 BST (UK)  »
All

Thanks for the input so far. Must admit I missed a trick by not checking the GRO Indexes for their children as that definitely confirms Ann`s maiden name as "Beard".

I had seen the marriage for Haynes/Beard in Calne, Wiltshire for 1820 but had discounted it for the same reason rosie99 did.

I`ve done abit more digging and discovered these possibilities:

Ann Beard Ch 25/7/1810 Bishops Cleeve, Glos - Parents: George Beard and Sarah King

Ann Beard Ch 9/4/1811 Frampton on Severn, Glos - Parents: Nathaniel Beard and Elizabeth

Ann Beard Ch 30/7/1809 Painswick, Glos - Parents: Elizabeth

Ann Beard Ch 2/9/1810 Stroud, Glos - Parents James Beard/Ann Roberts

In the latter`s case there is a Familysearch Family Tree that has her married to a George Verrender on 26 Oct 1835 in Lydney, Glos. Also, she seems to have passed away in 1850 in Stroud Registration District as she doesn`t appear with George Verrender and family in the 1851 Census.

So although I now know for sure that my Ann was "Beard", she could be any one of the above three. Not sure where to go from here there are so few websites that have Pre 1837 records.

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Gloucestershire / William Haynes Marriage Brick Wall
« on: Tuesday 27 April 21 11:02 BST (UK)  »
Good people, I need help...

William Haynes b1710 St.Briavels, Glos  married an Ann ?   sometime in the period (I`m assuming) 1828-1834 but Ann who?

In the 1841-1871 Census Returns the couple are initially in Minchinhampton then later Rodborough where they raised their 11 children.  Ann passed away in 1874 age 64 (Death Registration Vol 6a Pg 226 Oct-Dec). William remarried in 1878 to an Elizabeth Bowley; he passed away 10 years later in 1888. 

The only source of information that I am missing is that that proves the first marriage ie where, when and Ann`s maiden name. 

Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

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Thanks for the suggestions.

I can see why "Vetrie" might be the correct one.  I did a quick search of the 1881 and 1891 Censuses on the SP site but nothing came up at all when searching for Vetrie. 

I'll have to assume it had some meaning to his parents whose names were William Lewis Young and Louisa Trowell Young.

Thanks again,
Frank

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Scottish Handwriting Decipher Needed
« on: Sunday 31 May 20 12:31 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

Need some help deciphering the middle name of a relative born in 1885 in Craigton, Dunbartonshire.

On the Scotland's People site it's been recorded as "VERTIE" which would be unusual as there are no other occurrences of VERTIE in the family.  "BERTIE" would be an obvious choice but his first name is Albert so he's likely to be called Bertie anyway. 

Attached is a very cropped image from the registration certificate which I hope someone can decipher for me.


Thanks in advance,
Frank


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Canada / HAWKHURST FAMILY - St.John/Queens Counties - New Brunswick
« on: Tuesday 23 January 18 11:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Looking for additional information on descendants of the Hawkhurst Family of St John (mainly) New Brunswick.  Specifically the following ancestral line:

Isaac Hawkhurst of Grand Lake, Queens County who married Marion Flowers around 1850?
I have two recorded children:
Bianca Hawkhurst (1852-1928) who married William John MacPherson in 1871 and
Elias Bedford Hawkhurst (1866-1922) who married Alberta Phoebe Brown in 1890.

Elias and Phoebe's children were:
Arthur Verner Hawkhurst (1893-?)
William Stanley Hawkhurst (1898-1949)
Manford Hazen Hawkhurst (1903-?)
Greta May Hawkhurst (1905-?)

My family link to the Hawkhursts above is through Arthur Verner's marriage in 1915 to Jeannie Atwell, one of my maternal Grand Aunts.

I have interrogated the online databases available and have a certain amount of information I am willing to share but have a few vital gaps in my knowledge.

Look forward to hearing from anyone with strong family connections to the Hawkhursts.

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Devon / Re: HAYNES, Jenny Burton - NEWTON ABBOTT
« on: Wednesday 29 November 17 09:47 GMT (UK)  »
Millipede

Apologies for delay in responding - unfortunately work got in the way of my research!

I think you are right as I have traced marriages for all her brothers and sisters although I still have to finalize final confirmation on 2-3 of her later siblings.

What puzzles me is if she did pass away during that period why is there no death registration?

Thanks for your help.


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Devon / Re: HAYNES, Jenny Burton - NEWTON ABBOTT
« on: Sunday 05 November 17 09:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the reply.

Yes, the parents stayed in the Newton Abbott area.

Her older sister Florence married in 1892 and her and her husband, William Penberthy moved to Swindon some time prior to the 1901 census.  Although she has a younger sibling staying with her on that occasion and in the 1911 Census neither one is Jenny.

I searched FreeBMD again this morning and it turned up the Death registration of a Jennie Haynes in Mar Quarter 1945 age 72 in Birmingham.  Her stated age would confirm an 1873 birth but I am not convinced it's the Jennie I'm looking for.

I have tried searching under "Jane Haynes"; "Jane B"; "Jennie Burton"; "Jane Burton"; with the surname variants and All Counties boxes ticked but can not identify and potential candidates.

So I might just have to leave her on the back burner if this enquiry proves fruitless.

Any info or ideas will be gratefully received.

Thanks in advance.


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Devon / HAYNES, Jenny Burton - NEWTON ABBOTT
« on: Saturday 04 November 17 10:09 GMT (UK)  »
I need some help/advice on tracking down my relative Jenny Burton HAYNES, Born 1873. She was 1 of 14 children born to Thomas Haynes (1841-1912) and Mary Jane Slocombe (1839-1913) of Wolborough, Newton Abbott.

I have tracked the family through the census returns and her name disappears between the 1881 and 1891 returns, when she would have been between 8 and 18 years old. I have been unable to find any marriage or death record using the usual free online resources.

Can anyone help or advise?

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