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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Bentley London Look Up
« on: Wednesday 02 March 16 20:59 GMT (UK)  »
New information James Bentley who arrived in South Australia 1849 (with his family on the Cheapside) was in fact my John Bentley's father. James Bentley married Elizabeth Chatterton 1819 in London. James Bentley's patents were actually John Bentley and Rosetta Friend (not Elizabeth as stated).

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Australia / Re: Which David MUTTON is which
« on: Saturday 27 February 16 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you The reason I posted here is that I was hoping someone in South Australia may know where Mary Mutton was born?

I am sorry for any misspelling. I should have referred it as The Port Noarlunga jetty (which was constructed in 1855  just prior to the wreck)

(The morning after the wreck the passengers were taken to the newly built Port Noarlunga jetty to be transported aboard the mail steamer “Thomas Melbourne” to be transported to Port Adelaide)

Apparently this jetty was destroyed by bad weather early 1900s and a second jetty was built in its place.

I was confused about the online passenger list not matching up also.

I paid for a copy of the "original passenger list of the Nashwauk" from
Genealogy SA "South Australian Genealogy & Heraldry Society Inc"

SRSA
Nominal list of Emigrants on board the Nashwauk dispatched from Liverpool for Adelaide SA GRG 35/48A/1855/16
 
Also The book "Servants Depot's" (by Marie Steiner) has these two passengers being both from Kilkenny. (The matron in charge of the girls apparently was notorious for transcribing the names incorrectly).

Kind regards Sandra (Wollongong NSW)

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Australia / Re: Which David MUTTON is which
« on: Saturday 27 February 16 07:41 GMT (UK)  »
It is incorrect I paid for a copy of the actual passenger list from South Australia which states they both came from Kilkenny!! Kind regards Sandra (Australia)

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Australia / Re: Which David MUTTON is which
« on: Saturday 27 February 16 03:22 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all John Bentley is buried Little Hartley cemetery ( I think this is because he was not Catholic and possibly never legally married to Johanna). I have everything about all their children and where they all lived in Mount Victoria etc. I need a link to trace Johanna back to Ireland. I think Mary Mutton was related to her? Irish naming patterns indicate Johanna's mother may have been Amelia because this was the name of John Bentley and Johanna shays first born child!
Kind regards Sandra

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Australia / Re: Which David MUTTON is which
« on: Friday 26 February 16 22:43 GMT (UK)  »
Also I have obtained both marriage certificates of Mary Sheahy 1862 (father Patrick) and Johanna Shay 1858 (father Michael) and they were both living in Kooringa South Australia!

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Australia / Re: Which David MUTTON is which
« on: Friday 26 February 16 22:37 GMT (UK)  »
Yes this is my Johanna! Are you aware if she may be any link to Mary Mutton (Sheahy)?
If Mary Mutton was from Kilkenny in Ireland and her father was Patrick and my Johanna's father was Michael they may have been related? A Judith Shea (Johanna) and Mary Shea came to South Australia in 1855 as Irish servant girls on the ship Nashwauk which was wrecked Port Noaralinga before arriving (Liverpool to Adelaide). Both these girls were from Kilkenny and they both could have fudged their ages to be accepted as assisted immigrants?

Interestingly Thomas Castle was a bogus name for John Bentley ( he was a Protestant and Johanna was a catholic). I know it was a bogus name because it was mentioned in a Supreme Court case in Adelaide during the contesting of a will of Thomas Friend Bentley ( John Bentley's brother). Both John Bentley and his brother Edward were mounted police officers Burra/Redruth/Clare/Kapunda/Kooringa South Australia
Edward stayed in South Australia while Johanna Shea and John Bentley moved to Katoomba nsw and had 10 children together!
Any help appreciated

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Australia / Re: Which David MUTTON is which
« on: Friday 26 February 16 06:23 GMT (UK)  »
I have a Johanna Shea (various spellings) was born 1838 in Kilkenny and her father was Michael a farmer from Kilkenny. No mention of her mother but she had a middle name of Maria?
Johanna listed herself as Judith when she came out to South Australia in 1855 on a ship called the Nashwauk - she could have fudged her age of 19 b 1836-9 (as she was actually 16) this is confirmed in a newspaper report about the shipwreck (she probably lied to get assisted passage as an Irish servant girl).Without a parent you needed to be over 18. A Mary Shea was also on board aged 22 ( also from Kilkenny) b 1833-36 but she could have fudged her age also). Mary could be a sister or cousin. The Nadhwauk was wrecked just off landing and Johanna/Judith was rescued by a mounted police officer who became her husband (John Bentley a mounted policeman).
Johanna/Judith Shea married a Thomas castle in Kooringa in 1858 (witness Nancy Duggan) and left South Australia in 1859 where she had a child with John Bentley in Sydney (118 Clarence street) After she moved to Katoomba she and John had a further 10 children.
Johanna/Judith was possibly related to archbishop Thomas Oshea from New Zealand as he visited Katoomba during an illness. Also a possible connection with a Mary Coogan from Kilkenny who resided at 118 Clarence street Sydney and was married to a James Bentley and had a child at this address in 1860.
I think Mary Mutton was Mary Shea who arrived in SA on the Nashwauk shipwreck in 1855 with her cousin Johanna/Judith!
Any info appreciated? Kind regards Sandra - Australia

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Kilkenny / Re: Johanna Shay- Kilkenny Ireland/Australia
« on: Monday 05 January 15 12:23 GMT (UK)  »
I think Johanna could have been actually Judith Shea
In 1855 a ship called the Nashwauk arrived in
South Australia with Irish servant girls Judith Shea and
Mary Shea from Kilkenny. Johanna's future husband
john Bentley was a mounted police officer
Who helped rescue Johanna from the ship which was wrecked
Off the coast of South Australia.
Later Johanna and John Bentley had 10 children
And lived in the blue mountains of NSW. John was
From a strict Methodist family and Johanna was a strict
Catholic. I think John used the alias of Thomas Castle
When he married her in 1858. All documentation states that
They married in SA in 1858. But the only marriage
Recorded is Johanna and Thomas Castle in SA in1858.
Also Archbishop Thomas Oshea from New Zealand
Visited the Blue Mountains to recover from an illness
Early in his career. Johanna Shea owned the property
The Catholic Church sits on in Mt Victoria in the
Blue Mountains of NSW in 1887-1917.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Parrot(t) Family, Mansfield, 1841 Census
« on: Friday 07 June 13 09:18 BST (UK)  »
Acknowledgement: Newspaper article transcribed in 1992 by Barbara Turner.

The third fleet of 11 ships [Atlantic, William and Ann, Britannia, Matilda, Salamander, Albemarle, Mary Anne, Admiral Barrington, Active and Gorgon] arrived in 1791, with over 2000 convicts.

From the "NEW HOLLAND MORNING POST", 18th October, 1791
A list of criminals who have come to our shores in recent months

Parrott James from Herts 14yrs (William and Anne)
Parrott William from London Life (alias Price)

Parrott land grants NSW
A James Parrott  (Buckingham farm Botany) 1 Jan 1810
James Parrott Castlereagh Street Sydney 27 Rods 13 June 1823
James Parrott 30 acres next to Plunketts District St George (Peakhurst) 19 Oct 1831

William Parrott 100acres Upper Minto 1 Jan 1810
William Parrott 50 rods Parramatta 1 Jan 1810
William Parrott George st Paramatta 121 and a half rods 30 Jun 1823
William Parrott (for wife Mary Parrott) 110 acres between Tyrrells land and Townson’s land District St George (Peakhurst) 24 August 1841 and re-issued 18 March 1842 being the land promised to George Tyrrell (Mary’s father) now deceased promised 4 March 1811.

It is interesting that a James Parrott and a William Parrott were granted land close to one another in early Peakhurst in district St George 1831 and 1841.

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