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I too am looking for confirmation of a burial in Bridlington priory. In the Sampson Family book, the author has written  "In 1839 Rev, George Sampson was buried at Bridlington Priory. His monument stone has toppled but is still imposing and readable"

Does anyone know if this memorial stone still exists as it might be worth contacting the Priory to see if I can get a photograph.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Probate page
« on: Thursday 10 June 21 08:54 BST (UK)  »
I have found a little more on this query. Mansion House was a legitimate place built in 1850 at San Jose, perhaps not fully finished when John Sampson was sent there?  It became known as Beaty's hotel by 1855 and there's a picture of it here
http://digitalcollections.sjlibrary.org/cdm/ref/collection/arbuckle/id/297

In the notes beneath it mentions "Steam boat line stage office for San Francisco." But it doesn't make sense if the intended destination might have been San Francisco. Maybe it all comes back to medical care.

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United States of America / Re: Shipping: New Zealand to San Francisco
« on: Thursday 10 June 21 08:06 BST (UK)  »
It was sheer good luck that I found the shipping arrival for the Pilgrim as it was a tiny mention squashed in between other arrivals. I had read that shipping data had been lost in a fire, but thar some had been reconstructed from newspapers. I also trawled through brits lost at sea, but didn't find anything there either. Thanks for your help thus far OOH. I shall keep looking. 

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United States of America / Re: Shipping: New Zealand to San Francisco
« on: Sunday 06 June 21 00:41 BST (UK)  »
The world state and the USA elections preoccupied me for some time, but I did find the arrival for the Pilgrim in a San Francisco paper. as follows
Shipping intelligence
Port of San francisco February 5 (1850)
Arrived
British barque Pilgrim Francis 77 Days from Auckland, with 54 passengers

Unfortunately that is all there was and there was nothing about the passengers except the number. Still looking for what became of Mary Georgina Scott. Not mentioned in the Probate for her Brother John Sampson, died san Jose 1850. All Mary's living sisters petitioned for a distribution from John's intestate estate but Mary Georgina was not one of them.  Her husband John was in Marysville Yuba, County California during this protracted probate, but later married as a widow, in England, 1854. So, it comes back to where and when she died. Between 1849 after leaving Pitcairn, arrival in San Francisco on 5 February 1850 and John Scott signing papers for John Sampson Probate in Marysville 26 September 1850.
My original estimate of arrival was based on the entry of Walter Broadie's diary about Pitcairn, and was written retrospectively, so incorrect for timeframe. So, the question still remains. At sea? In San Francisco, or somewhere between that town and Marysville.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / DNA matches
« on: Thursday 09 January 20 07:36 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know if there is a simple formula for triangulating DNA matches. Apart from the ones I "know" are family members, there are some close matches I haven't got a clue about, but feel if I can triangulate these against others, I might get a fix on where they belong. It doesn't help if they have no posted tree, and lots of those I've requested information from, never answer the message. These are Ancestry matches.

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US Lookup Requests / Re: John Sampson burial record
« on: Friday 07 June 19 06:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Genealiza. The dates on those "Mansion" houses tends to confirm that San Jose is definitely the place he died.
The  pioneer files re the Sampson family were largely written by Alice McHone a grand daughter of Camilla Beverly Scott (Sampson) Klein and were written such a long time after the deaths of the 3 brothers, that they do have errors in them. Alice's grandmother died before Alice was born, so stories are not first hand. Therefore I'm cautious of that information and have where possible tested it against known family history and newspaper accounts, documents etc, from this side of the world.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Probate page
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 23:01 BST (UK)  »
I didn't put in what I could read to see if others with fresh eyes had a different interpretation.
However, if you look carefully at the way the J is written for John's name and then the letter in the middle of the words for the carriage cost, do you think it is San Jose? If so, what does the single letter proceeding it  mean? To or from? or, is it a person's name?

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US Lookup Requests / Re: John Sampson burial record
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 22:50 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that Genealiza. I had tucked this away for future research. I do know where most of those children belong, and their married names.
It seems that the whole family were very familiar with litigation. 

Another clue, taken from the probate account,  might be in identifying where Mansion House was. I've looked in both San Jose and Marysville without anything conclusive.

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US Lookup Requests / Re: John Sampson burial record
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 11:47 BST (UK)  »
I've added the relevant page in Deciphering here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=813951.new#new

Yes cholera is a possibility although the consensus of the descendants is most likely pneumonia. I had read there was a cholera outbreak in Sacramento about that time, and may have been the result of the death of the other John Sampson (Seaman)  buried in the old Sacramento cemetery.
I'll look for the article re cholera in Marysville. Think I had come across it before.

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