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Hi,

Thanks so much for your reply. Can you please send me a PM with a bit more info? I am a bit confused as to how you came to that conclusion and can't find this one without a bit more identifying information.

Cheers. :)


There are some pieces missing from the 1861 census.

The closest to where they could have been living is this one.

145 Middlesex Islington Islington East  Islington

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Thank you all so very much. I've just found the baptism image on Ancestry and downloaded it. I am fairly certain that this is my family... just a little niggling doubt because the names are so common. Great to be getting it sorted at last! :D  ;D ;D

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The 1874 marriage at St Peter's Bayswater is also easily found, it is St Peter's Notting Hill on Ancestry London Marriages and Banns.

maxD

Yes, thank you Max. I did mention that I found the marriage on the A website. But it doesn't actually say Notting Hill on the certificate that we purchased in 2000 nor does it say Notting Hill on the marriage entry digital image. That crucial piece of information is only in the electronic text header on Ancestry and it's only because of my dogged persistence that I picked up that crucial clue a few days ago. Why didn't they put Notting Hill on the Certified copy of an entry of marriage that we paid for? Then we might have solved this case 16 years ago!

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You say you found the baptisms on Ancestry and where can you see the original baptism entry.   You can view the actual image on Ancestry too.

Annette

Wow, Annette, thanks so much! I'll try again but so far I haven't found the image.

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Thank you very much for your reply.

This family are proving to be very tricky!

I agree!

I think the 1851 census with William, Mary Ann, Elizabeth and Emma living in Poplar must be the correct one.  Assume that's the one you spoke about.

Yes, but I could be wrong.

Can't find them in 1861.

Same, especially if they avoided being on the 1851 & 1861 census as some folk did.

I see, in 1871, there's a Smith family from Oxfordshire living in Walmer Road.  Maybe Emma was living with them at the time of her marriage.   Are there any clues to be had from the marriage witnesses?

I'll have a look at that but I think the family in Denbigh road on the 1871 census are ours, but it's not conclusive yet.


I can't see Emma and Henry's baptism records online anywhere.  If they still exist, then they would be at the Westminster Archives.

Cheers, I only found the select index record for Emma & William's baptisms which were on the same day, can't find Henry's.

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Select birth/baptism

Emma SMITH b.12.4.1850, bapt 23.6.1861 St Johns, Notting Hill, MDX. Her younger brother was baptised on the same day. It provides FHL details but I am a bit too far away from their nearest library. Where else would the original baptism record be? LMA?

1871 census has Wiiliam (Emma's Father), Emma & two younger brothers at Denbigh Mews, Kensington, Municipal Ward St John & St James. But on google earth it's showing up as Denbigh Close not Mews (near Portobello Road, Denbigh Terrace and Denbigh Road, but the Close is just around the corner from that church where the baptisms occurred. :)

Emma was married at St Peter's Church, in the Parish of Bayswater. It's only recently that I've found the baptism at Notting Hill and looked again at the marriage entry on the A website and saw the text reference to Notting Hill above the digital image ... even though we'd had the marriage certificate since 2000 it doesn't state Notting Hill on the certificate... it only states Bayswater (which seems to be nearby too - you can tell I'm not a Londoner!).  :/

With both the baptism & marriage held at Notting Hill so close to where they lived on the 1871 census, and the groom's address on the 1874 marriage certificate is Denbigh Mews but by then Emma's address was Walmer Rd (I believe that's nearby too)... it's starting to fit together like a good jigsaw puzzle. :D

However, I need to be sure I am on the right track as Emma's birth place according to the 1871 census was Poplar New Town, no birth place provided on the Select index record.

Emma's mother was deceased before the 1871 census and Emma was also deceased before the 1881 census. I can't find them on the 1861 census but possibly have them on the 1851 census..... It's a bit tricky.... there were a lot of SMITH folk so I need to narrow it down as much as possible before purchasing her birth certificate. I can't afford to buy several certificates to get it sorted and even then there could be more than one family with the same names.

Cheers,  :D
Em


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Thanks so much, will do!  :)

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Hi,

I'd really appreciate some help to get this baptism sorted, please. I'm fairly certain that I've found the needle in the haystack of one of my SMITH ancestors, via a 'Select Births and Christening' index only record on the A website. The record gives both the birth & baptism date, but only the baptism place.

Where can I obtain a copy of the original baptism?

Would anyone have first-hand knowledge of the area, please? I am trying to place the pieces of the jigsaw puzzle together, but as an Aussie I have limited knowledge of London/Middlesex roads etc.

On the 1871 census the address of the family (which I believe are my ancestors) was then a 'Mews' now it appears to be a 'Close' which is a point I really need clarified as there's a few addresses with the same/similar name popping up on Google Earth search results.

Due to the copyright issue I'm not sure what info I can post here from the select index record. So please let me know via PM or reply here whichever is appropriate. I've been chipping away at this brick wall for at least a decade and am astonished that I am so close to smashing it down!

Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Em

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Hi,

Ok thanks so much!

Em


Hi
Most of the info from Ancestry.
Isaac and Mary buried as Brinkworth.
That Richard son of Thomas and Ann does look good.

Ciderdrinker

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