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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help in breaking brick
« on: Yesterday at 21:05 »I got confused as I have been calling her maggie not margaret .
I think she went with either name. Her shipping manifest entry has her as Maggie too.
Monica
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I think she went with either name. Her shipping manifest entry has her as Maggie too.
Monica
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help in breaking brick
« on: Yesterday at 21:02 »
Just for additional background, this looks to be Jeremiah Scullion in 1901 in Port Glasgow with his family. Children all born in Port Glasgow:
John Scullion 40 Rivetter Ship b. Ireland
Mary Agnes Scullion 39 b. Ireland
Mary Elizabeth Scullion 15
Edward Scullion 12
Sarah Ann Scullion 9
Jeremiah Scullion 5
Agnes Scullion 3
John Scullion 2
Address 2 Scotts Lane, Port Glasgow
Monica
John Scullion 40 Rivetter Ship b. Ireland
Mary Agnes Scullion 39 b. Ireland
Mary Elizabeth Scullion 15
Edward Scullion 12
Sarah Ann Scullion 9
Jeremiah Scullion 5
Agnes Scullion 3
John Scullion 2
Address 2 Scotts Lane, Port Glasgow
Monica
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help in breaking brick
« on: Yesterday at 20:52 »
Yes, the marriage cert for daughter Margaret certainly helps confirm details.
Found the shipping manifest entry now. The family left Port Glasgow to reside in Brooklyn NY in 1948 on the 'Washington'.
Jeremiah's occupation is showing as Engineer as it did years earlier on his marriage register entry.
Four of their daughters travelled with them on this crossing. Their son John b. 1928 must have joined them there as he died in Florida it seems in 2009.
You can see a more complete list of their children from Margaret's death details posted.
Monica
Found the shipping manifest entry now. The family left Port Glasgow to reside in Brooklyn NY in 1948 on the 'Washington'.
Jeremiah's occupation is showing as Engineer as it did years earlier on his marriage register entry.
Four of their daughters travelled with them on this crossing. Their son John b. 1928 must have joined them there as he died in Florida it seems in 2009.
You can see a more complete list of their children from Margaret's death details posted.
Monica
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help in breaking brick
« on: Yesterday at 20:26 »
The Scullion family left Scotland for the US (trying to find the shipping manifest entry for them).
Margaret's death notice on the American newspaper site (which I can't access). Index info below:
Margaret Scullion
Maiden Name Cameron
Death Age 81
Birth Date abt 1895
Death Date 16 Jul 1976
Obituary Date 17 Jul 1976
Obituary Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Newspaper Title The Philadelphia Inquirer
Spouse Jeremiah Scullion
Child Mae Broadley; Agnes Kuhl; Margaret Shuharl; John Scullion; Belty Erickson; Kathleen Campbell
Monica
Margaret's death notice on the American newspaper site (which I can't access). Index info below:
Margaret Scullion
Maiden Name Cameron
Death Age 81
Birth Date abt 1895
Death Date 16 Jul 1976
Obituary Date 17 Jul 1976
Obituary Place Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Newspaper Title The Philadelphia Inquirer
Spouse Jeremiah Scullion
Child Mae Broadley; Agnes Kuhl; Margaret Shuharl; John Scullion; Belty Erickson; Kathleen Campbell
Monica
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Help in breaking brick
« on: Yesterday at 20:13 »
Margaret went on to marry under her reputed surname of Cameron. She was obviously aware of who he was.
She married a Jeremiah Scullion at St John's RC Church in Port Glasgow in 1920. Thomas Lodge (stepfather?) was a witness to the marriage. See clip below:
She married a Jeremiah Scullion at St John's RC Church in Port Glasgow in 1920. Thomas Lodge (stepfather?) was a witness to the marriage. See clip below:
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 21:56 BST (UK) »
Posted for the wrong Anthony. Sorry 
Let me find the other Anthony's entry and will add.
In the meantime, this Leo who shows as witness was obviously the family's official witness at marriages
He also shows as witness to the marriage of daughter Mary Ann O'Brien https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1942/08800/5181285.pdf
Monica
ADDED: The correct link for Anthony's marriage in 1936 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08925/5228309.pdf
Thanks for pointing out my slip up, aghadowey
Let me find the other Anthony's entry and will add.In the meantime, this Leo who shows as witness was obviously the family's official witness at marriages
He also shows as witness to the marriage of daughter Mary Ann O'Brien https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1942/08800/5181285.pdfMonica
ADDED: The correct link for Anthony's marriage in 1936 https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08925/5228309.pdf
Thanks for pointing out my slip up, aghadowey
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 21:47 BST (UK) »
Like many a register entry on Scotlands People too 
So no comparison possible then. Just curious, Sinann, how can you tell that this is a copy register entry? Scottish certs will include for example '(signed)' where the signatures are on the copy entry confirming that it is not the original signature (apart from the fact that all the writing is same being the clerk's writing).
A Leo O'Brien was also a witness at another O'Brien son, Anthony, who also married in 1936https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1936/08925/5228247.pdf See corrected link below.
Monica
So no comparison possible then. Just curious, Sinann, how can you tell that this is a copy register entry? Scottish certs will include for example '(signed)' where the signatures are on the copy entry confirming that it is not the original signature (apart from the fact that all the writing is same being the clerk's writing).
A Leo O'Brien was also a witness at another O'Brien son, Anthony, who also married in 1936
Monica
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 21:29 BST (UK) »
Just for comparison of signatures for the Leo who was a witness to the marriage of Patrick Joseph and then seven years later, Leo's signature on the marriage register for his wedding.
The same or totally different?
The same or totally different?
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Year of Birth but no record.
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 21:18 BST (UK) »
Just a thought. I wonder if Leo was not a first name but perhaps a middle name that doesn't show on the birth registration?
Also, when brother Patrick Joseph married Mary O'Shaughnessy in 1936 (can't see it on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie to post the link) one of the witnesses was a Leo O'Brien. Brother or relative? With a possible birth year of 1923, that would make brother 13 in 1936. Unlikely.
Maybe Leo's birth year could be earlier than c. 1923? Last birth found was for a son Peter in 1919.
Monica
Also, when brother Patrick Joseph married Mary O'Shaughnessy in 1936 (can't see it on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie to post the link) one of the witnesses was a Leo O'Brien. Brother or relative? With a possible birth year of 1923, that would make brother 13 in 1936. Unlikely.
Maybe Leo's birth year could be earlier than c. 1923? Last birth found was for a son Peter in 1919.
Monica