Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - johneowens

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 ... 42
28
Flintshire / Re: Deciphering townships near Northup/Mold, Flintshire, N Wales from 1798 parish re
« on: Tuesday 01 June 21 17:27 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: hanes teulu on Tuesday 01 June 21 17:21 BST (UK)
One newspaper report describes it as " ... a mountainous district between Flint and Northop ...".

Many thanks, hanes teulu.

Could you please send me the citation and the clipping?

Best

John

29
Flintshire / Re: Deciphering townships near Northop, Flintshire, N Wales from 1798 parish re
« on: Tuesday 01 June 21 17:26 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Gadget on Tuesday 01 June 21 16:56 BST (UK)
PS - I was referring to Flint as a parish/town rather than the county in my last posting. 

I see that there is a large stretch of land to the south of Holywell that is marked as Holywell common. Maybe earlier maps would show Flint Common.

Thanks, Gadget. I'll check it out. However, if Flint Common is part of Flint, which has its own parish church I wonder why my baptisms listed above are registered at Northop, presumably, the Parish Church of St. Eurgain and St. Peter at Northop. Could be because the Flint church "had been profaned and severely vandalised in the Civil War", according to http://www.fflint.co.uk/church.html

Best

John

30
Flintshire / Re: Deciphering townships near Northup/Mold, Flintshire, N Wales from 1798 parish re
« on: Tuesday 01 June 21 17:13 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Jo. I'll check out this url.

Best

John

31
Flintshire / Re: Deciphering townships near Northup/Mold, Flintshire, N Wales from 1798 parish re
« on: Tuesday 01 June 21 16:38 BST (UK)  »
Hi Bookbox

On further reflection, I see the other Flint Common mentions. I guess it is/was an area of the county town of Flint. Previously,I went for Flint Corn mill as I found that on Google and no mention of Flint Common but I'm now persuaded Flint Common is much more likely.

Many thanks again

Best

John

32
Flintshire / Re: Deciphering townships near Northup/Mold, Flintshire, N Wales from 1798 parish re
« on: Tuesday 01 June 21 10:03 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks, everyone. Leadbrook Major looks right for Ann. However, I cannot find a place near Northup called Flint Common. There is however Corn Mill, as Gadget suggests - which reflects the former existence of a corn mill. I'll go with Flint Corn Mill.

Best

John


33
Flintshire / Deciphering townships near Northup/Mold, Flintshire, N Wales from 1798 parish re
« on: Monday 31 May 21 20:27 BST (UK)  »
Could some kind person please decipher the township of one of my distant relatives from the Northup Parish Registers?

The entries are on p. 136 of the christenings for 1798, 9th and 10th lines down:

"Lobrook major?? Anne D of John Jones & Mary his wife [born 19 Feb], bapt 21 Feb"
"Flint Corn Mill?? Robert S of John Jones & Mary his wife [born 23 Feb] bapt 25 Feb".

Anne and Robert appear to be children of the same parents, but the interval between the birth dates suggests they are not. I think Robert is one of my 3rd gt grandfathers.

I'm not familiar with this area of north Wales. Can anyone decipher the townships for me, please? "Flint Corn Mill (sic) also appears further down the same page, as dows "Lobrook major??".

Yet again, a small jpeg file of the page does not load on Rootschat.

In anticipation, many thanks and best wishes

John

34
Flintshire / Re: James Ible (Ibell Iball?) MOLD
« on: Monday 31 May 21 20:00 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: hiraeth on Sunday 06 March 11 00:37 GMT (UK)
Hello Sandfie

There are quite a few entries for IBAL families in the Mold baptisms. 
The only James IBAL baptism listed at Mold parish between 1773-1797 was in 1797 - too late for yours. 

However there is a baptism for a James EUBULE Jan 22, 1786 (at 7 weeks) father John mother Rebecca (LEWIS) abode Bistree.    There are several EUBULE entries as well but I'm not sure if this name would be considered within the acceptable range of spelling variation or a totally different family?   

HTH
Heather

Many thanks, Heather. Still working my way through the Iball et al line.

Best

John


35
Flintshire / Re: James Ible (Ibell Iball?) MOLD
« on: Saturday 29 May 21 19:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Raybistre

Yes, like most Welsh names, I would think Iball et al are patronyms. But what a mystifying variety of spellings and, presumably, pronunciations.

Best

John

36
Flintshire / Re: James Ible (Ibell Iball?) MOLD
« on: Friday 28 May 21 17:49 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks, Peterej. A brilliant source, and most helpful.

I guess the author of http://www.clwydsurnames2.uk/I.html decided to list all the variations he/she found under Ible, as the commonest use today. I am correct, please?

However, going back to my specific query: do you or anyone else know whether or not all these variations recorded by numerous parish clerks/census enumerators (Ible, Ibell, Abell, Ebill, Eiball, Eible, Eubal, Eubale, Euball, Eubel, Eubele, Eubil, Euble, Eublo, Eubul, Eubule, Eubules, Eubull, Eubuloe, Eubulus, Eubuly, Eybel, Eyble, Eybule, Hibal, Ibal, Ibale, Iball, Ibble, Ibel, Ibell, Ibil, Ible, Ibyll, Isal, Ubal, Ubel, Ubell, Ubil, Ubill, Ubule, Ibyll) are all derived from the same name? And pronounced the same? but thanks to the limitations of the various recorders and the use of Latin, English, and Welsh, are spelled different?

Has anyone any further thoughts, please?

Many thanks and best wishes

John

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6 7 ... 42